Antonio E. Gonzalez

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:12:30 -0500, Invid Fan <invid@localnet.com>
wrote:
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>In article <Xns9A4F50EB8CEAFfreezer88hotmailcom@194.177.96.26>, Freezer
><freezer88@hotSPAMTHISmail.com> wrote:
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>> If I don't respond to this 8-Bit Star post, the terrorists win.
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>> > Carl Macek's dubs were actually pretty good, and I do not
>> > understand why, in this post-4Kids day and age, Macek is
>> > still occassionally held up as the quintessential example
>> > of the "Bad Dub."[/color]
>>
>> <snippage>
>>
>> "Not as bad as people say" and/or "At least it's not 4Kids" is as far
>> as I'm willing to go in defence of the man who inspired the term
>> "Macekre". ([url]http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/MAin/Macekre[/url])[/color]
>
>Gee, a term I've never heard in 20+ years of fandom :)[/color]

Oooh, this led me to an interesting one called "Hide Your
Lesbians"!

Besides the expected ones, I was surprised to find "Superman: TAS"
in there. Now I remember discussion of how Det. Maggie Sawyer was a
lesbian in the comics; well, if you look at the two-part episode
"Apokalips . . .now!" (which was luckily broadcast on Toon Disney just
last week), it seems she was also a lesbian in the DCAU!

Considering she's a secondary character, it's no surprise there was
no big look into her personal life. She would've gotten no more
attention than Commisioner Gordon on Batman: TAS; interestengly, there
*was* that one episode devoted to Harvey Bullock, where we find the
Detective is *way* too comfortable with cockroaches in his apartment .
.. .

After a critical injury courtesy of Apokalips-supplied criminals,
she ends up sidelined on a hospital bed. Always at her bedside is an
unnamed woman who she seems *very* familiar with. Her lover's name in
the comics was (is?) Toby Meyers, and there was a Toby Meyers listed
in the credits voiced by Laraine Newman; I have a feeling I don't have
to remember her voice from the 70s SNL days to realize that's her
telling Maggie she's in no condition to back into the battle brewing.
Knowing how Bruce Timm & Co. work, this seems like a classic way to
satisfy the fans, and keep an otherwise touchy theme under the eyes of
the censors.

Even without this, the episode pushed quite a few boundaries. It's
about as far as you'll see violence go in a Y7 show (people literally
bleeding out of their ears; Darkseid brutalizing Superman), not to
mention quite the body count. Not only the unseen deaths that were
likely on the initial attack on the air base (not to mention
Metropolis itself), but Bruno Mannheim's unfortunate proximity to that
nuclear explosion, and the notable, not to mention rather graphic,
death, of Dan Turpin (which IIRC got a lot of talk at the time). Add
to that the highly emotional responses after that last one, not the
least of which Superman's rage, and this episode got quite intense . .
..


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