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Old 04-06-2009, 01:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I believe in God. The father, the son and the Holy Spirit. Why? I feel that the universe cannot exist by random events like two particles appearing in a vacuum and smashing into each other spawning a universe. It just seems illogical to me. I have looked at many religions and Christianity was the best one for me. I believe in Satan. Why? If there is good then there is evil, right? Plus half heartily believing in a religion is kind of lazy. Nuff said, right?
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Old 04-06-2009, 01:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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"Zeitgeist" refers to the ethos of an identified group of people, that expresses a particular world view which is prevalent at a particular period of socio-cultural progression.

Zeitgeist is the experience of a dominant cultural climate that defines, particularly in Hegelian thinking, an era in the dialectical progression of a people or the world at large. Hegel's main contribution to the formulation of the concept of Volksgeist is the attribution of a historical character to the concept. The spirit of a nation is one of the manifestations of "World Spirit" (Weltgeist). That Spirit is essentially alive and active throughout mankind's history. Now, the spirit of a nation is an intermediate stage of world history as the history of the World Spirit. The World Spirit gives impetus to the realization of the historical spirits of various nations (Volksgeister').

The spirits of individual nations are both the articulations (Gliederungen) of an organization and its realization. The spirits of individual nations represent a segment of the World Spirit out of which emerges the unlimited universal spirit. A comparison is introduced here between the status of an individual and that of a nation's spirit. In the process of his formation the individual undergoes various changes without, however, losing his identity. As a part of world history, a nation—exhibiting a certain trend expressed in its Volksgeist— plays its part in the total process of world history. But once it contributes its share to world history it can no longer play a role in the process of world history. The submersion in the total process prevents a people's cultural rebirth, because it has exhausted its creativity in the historical growth of its guiding spirit.
I don't get any of it.... danken9, why don't you tell us about Zeitgeist.
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though i was raised to believe in god. i don't feel that there anybody out there. and i will not comment any more than that. religious talks turn very ugly with me. so i am done with this thread
We bascially had this whole debate all ready, I'd rather have a mod close this before it gets ugly. It is just the same arguments over and over.

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So true sir, so true. "Faith is to shut the eye of reason" Ben Franklin

"Why? If there is good then there is evil, right? Plus half heartily believing in a religion is kind of lazy. Nuff said, right? "
@Chaf, Good and evil is all based on perspective. I could say you are really evil that is my opinion, there is not set bar for good or evil.
I've watched both zeitgeist films, the first half of the first one basically bashes religion and shows how Christianity can be interpreted as an astrological religion. I recommend it highly since it is something worth looking in to. The second half is conspiracies which I am not fond of.
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:15 AM   #15 (permalink)
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"Why? If there is good then there is evil, right? Plus half heartily believing in a religion is kind of lazy. Nuff said, right? "
@Chaf, Good and evil is all based on perspective. I could say you are really evil that is my opinion, there is not set bar for good or evil.
So in perspective if God is good then satan is evil, right?
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And uh.... what would these demons happen to look like? Not that I'm writing you off right away of course, but that is a little hard to take in.

Well, some of them you can feel more then see. But one I did see had a head like a ram, only with huge fangs and a square jaw. but I only got a peek at its head, I then started praying because I was freaked out. Demons have also sat on my shoulders when I was little for weeks at a time, I always felt negative pressure on my shoulders. I prayed with my mother ( I was four) and I have only had that happen once again.

Uh...ah man! We're gunna close it? to bad, you shouldn't play debates in fear of it getting ugly. and no one has been rude so far.
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Well, some of them you can feel more then see. But one I did see had a head like a ram, only with huge fangs and a square jaw. but I only got a peek at its head, I then started praying because I was freaked out. Demons have also sat on my shoulders when I was little for weeks at a time, I always felt negative pressure on my shoulders. I prayed with my mother ( I was four) and I have only had that happen once again.
Intense man. I've never had the oportunity to mess with the spirits good or evil. I'm just you're average christian.
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Intense man. I've never had the opportunity to mess with the spirits good or evil. I'm just you're average christian.
Oh! Believe me! I didn't mess with them! Lol. I would rather them not be there. (well, the evils ones anyway.) And being an " average" christian isn't enough for me, I literary break down crying asking God for more. But it could be different for you. haha, I wish I was satisfied with my relationship with God...I'm a rather depressed person when I'm not in tune with God...I'm kinda...EMO. XD

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I agree with what Chaf mostly said,
i do believe that there is a creator not nessicarily a god the son the holy spirit
i do believe it is very unlikely that WE the universe formed by jsut random particles bumping into each other. Also natural law states thate life has to come from life. so where did the first signs of life come from? i believe rather than natural it came from the super natural. a creator. If there isnt a creator than what we believe in must be the evolution theory which has been contridicted many times before. its really really hard to believe that from nothing we are formed. We are the most complex beings and i dont think its believable that we came from jsut a simple cell.
thats my opinion on this. Lol
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just watch zeitgeist if you have time..
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watch 1st "zeitgeist:the movie" not the addendum one OK... :)
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