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Old 05-20-2008, 03:15 AM   #121 (permalink)
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well, yeah, but he left the village when the village was created, so how can you blame the entire clan for that one person that left the village so many years ago... maybe some can, but I cant, instead of staying and trying to overthrow them from the inside, he was on the outside, so how is the clan to blame for what he did
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:42 AM   #122 (permalink)
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Well he was their leader, and maybe it was just out of fear of what they were capable of.
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Old 05-23-2008, 06:32 AM   #123 (permalink)
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Now the key issue is 'is Madara lying and trying to manipulate Sasuke' or he is telling the whole truth.
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Old 05-23-2008, 05:45 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Good point Waltz ... would be an interesting development ... hmm i think that he is telling the truth,makes a lot of scence to me,also why would he lie,well,ok to manipulate sasuke,but then again why ?
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:21 AM   #125 (permalink)
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@monz: yeah, thats possible. Fear is a great motivator to do things that others would probably look at as underhanded or just plain evil.

@aca: I agree that that is a good point, however I think he is speaking the truth. Everything seems valid and everything checks out. Im personally just glad that all that damn explanation is over so we can get on with the storyline
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Old 05-24-2008, 03:37 AM   #126 (permalink)
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I wonder if what Madara said about Sasuke killing Itachi to make him a hero in the eyes of the Leaf was really how it will work? Does that mean that he will return to Konoha and try to revive the Uchiha clan? Also I think it is pretty sweet that by Itachi dying Sasuke gained his Mangekyou.
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Old 05-24-2008, 03:58 AM   #127 (permalink)
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hmm, I personally cant see Saskue returning to Konoha to revive his clan, especially after learning that it was the orders of the leaders of Konoha that the clan was wiped out in the first place. And yeah, it is pretty sweet that Saskue achieved Mangekyo by Itachi dying... the only problem is about the "sealing" of the eyes... I know its not likely for the eyes to be sealed for several years, but it is an eventual thing, could Saskue possibly take Itachi's eyes and get a Eternal Mangekyo??
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Old 05-24-2008, 04:27 AM   #128 (permalink)
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Yeah I am sure he can still take Itachi's eyes and get the Eternal Mangekyou.
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Old 05-24-2008, 04:35 AM   #129 (permalink)
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I wonder if maybe that is the reason that Madara took Itachi too, sorta a peace offering of sorts. I seriously doubt that even if Saskue goes back to Konoha, he will just take Itachi's body... that wouldnt be very... smart
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