Opinion on Zero?

["L"]

What is your opinion on Zero and his ideals? Not just Lelouch, but Zero as the symbol. Would you follow something like Zero in a world like ours? Or just Britannia at all?

[weaver]

I think this a great idea but sort of difficult at the same time since it's impossible to know if people reading this have seen episodes up to a certain point. I'm going to provide Lelouch's biography first since I believe that it helps to shape the character when discussing them. Also most of this information you will already know.

Name: Lelouch Vi Britannia, Lelouch Lamperouge, Zero

Born: Decemnber 5, 2000

For the very early part of Lelouch's life he enjoyed life with his sister, Nunnally, his mother Empress Marianne and his half-sister Euphemia despite not having any friends. He was incredibly intelligent often challenging his older siblings, Clovis and Schneizel to chess matches; remaining undefeated to Clovis while it is hinted that Schneizel proved a difficult match for him.

When Lelouch turned 9 his life was changed forever when his mother was murdered and his sister Nunnally had both legs injured and her sight lost due to the trauma of witnessing the attack on her mother along with her mother's dying body fall on top of her.

Lelouch had always resented his father, the Emperor, for the petty fights between the siblings about who would succeed the Emperor, but he actually renounced his title after his father refused to visit the injured Nunnally in the hospital stating "He had no need for the weak."

Lelouch was then sent to Japan along with Nunnally as bargaining chips, and became political hostages of the Prime Minister. He finally developed his first friend in Kurugi Suzaku. Day after day Lelouch would receiving beatings from other Japanese kids though, including Suzaku when they first met. Lelouch did everything for Nunnally when he first arrived from cooking and laundry to chores and did not let a Japanese person even touch her hand until Suzaku. It was only a few months after they arrived that Britannia declared war on Japan, and Lelouch declared that he would destroy Britannia. It was during this time that Lelouch witnessed terrible tragedies including a massacred village, which I believe hardened Lelouch's personality. It was also during this time that Lelouch changed his and Nunnally's last name to Lamperouge and declared themselves dead to elude possible Britannia pursuers. The two of them took refuge in the care of the Ashford family in the Tokyo settlement and began living peaceful lives attending Ashford Academy after Britannia subdued Japan. This is also when he first meets Millay Ashford.

Seven Years Pass.

The Year is 2017 and Lelouch has become the Vice-President of the Student Council at Ashford Academy while making other friends or student council member associates including Shirley Fenette, Rivalz Carmonde, and Nina Einstein. After a chess match with a noble Lelouch becomes involved in a traffic accident which leads to him meeting the three other main characters including C.C., Kallen Kouzki/Stadfeld, and Kurugi Suzaku once again. Kallen gets Lelouch involved in the terrorist mess while Suzaku has become a Britannian soldier takes a bullet for Lelouch and C.C. takes a bullet for Lelouch, but gives him a Geass ability which can order a person to do anything he commands including suicide. Lelouch decides to use this power to change the world...

Now this is where I will begin his character analysis.

Lelouch is someone who uses any method to punish those who inflict pain upon others. He is what you might consider a world-wide vigilante who became a rebel or vice-versa to create a peaceful world for his sister. He knows as long as Britannia exists his sister will never be safe. If found she and Lelouch would continue to be used as political tools never obtaining true freedom. He carries the burden of being evil especially after Euphemia's massacre while still retaining some of his humanity. He does have a pillar of support or sometimes criticism in C.C. and an incredibly loyal soldier willing to become carnage itself in Kallen. Up until he met C.C. Lelouch believed himself to be dying a slow poison because of his lack of power, and gives no regard to risking his own life. He proves to be a master tactician in battle, and becomes a symbol of hope for the Japanese.

If there is two flaws with Lelouch it is his reluctance to let go of his friendship with Suzaku, who has become his greatest enemy, constantly stopping his plans. He has several chances to kill Suzaku but does not which ends up costing him greatly.

His second flaw is his inability to protect his sister who gets kidnapped twice.

You'll notice I did not list Lelouch's arrogance or overconfidence as a flaw. It is true that it can be with the occasional loss such as with Cornelia but overconfidence is the kind of attitude one wants in a leader. A leader that is unsure about himself will lead to weakness in the soldiers that follow him.

I think this is good enough for a start on Lelouch.

["L"]

Good analysis...but if you look at it that way, if he decides to finally cut ties with Suzaku, and kill him, he risks losing the humanity he has, it is a good thing he still cares about that friendship. Also, you are right it is good to be overconfident, but it is also good to underestimate one's self, while retaining that overconfidence, cautious and a thinker, along with a sure-to-win attitude. That doesn't exactly answer the question...it's YOUR personal opinion...what would you do exactly?

[Yoko]

hmmm.. i haven't finished CG yet, but i think Lelouche is different from Zero. well, at least that's how i see it. zero i see as having too big of an ego, and evil side. sometimes i think he's believes too much in himself, when rather it's mere luck. =_=' i could be totally wrong, but thats the way i see it. in other words.... i would WANT to support his cause, but i would be uneasy following him... because regardless of how smart he is, things don't always tend to work out the way you plan. >_<

[nabigh]

well Zero is good as a leader but sometimes he depends on luck

[darkangel50]

firts of all...

THAT WAS INCREDIBLE WEAVER_SAN!!!!!
that was a perfect description of Lelouch's personality indeed!!
i couldn't have done better!!!!
i saw code geass and i just love it!!
i love Lelouch....just like you describe him...it's really how he is!!! (at least that's what i though about him)

if he would existe in this world...or if i was in that world of his...i would follow him without any doubt! (like Kallen did...i guess...)
i would do anything to be by his side...under his command!

(ah...if i ever post in my blog about Lelouch can i use your speech...?? just some ideas...?)

[Yoko]

ok i finished season one, and part of season two. let me just say this... i absolutely HATE suzaku..... he's a pain in the ass. i did like yuffie though, ALOT. :'( poor yuffie!

but back to lelouche and zero... sometimes i really don't think he's doing this for nunally. i think he's doing it for himself, and his own damn ego...however i find him to be very human. honestly? any one of us could end up just like him, driven by hatred and failure.... to lead us to something evil. i dont' know how the ending is, but i hope things work out for him... because he just hasn't had it fair... :(

[chrisd69]

hmmm this will make for quite the debate. I have seen all 50 episodes.. and i think at first Lelouch believed that he was doing it for Nunnally but then later I think it was more for his own ego than anything else to shape the world as to what he believed to be right.

As for following him.. nope i wouldn't do it.. CC definately, no... you can see in the 2nd season how he changed and became more of a tyrannical dictator than trying to shape the world into a peaceful one.

[darkangel50]

Originally Posted by FilipinaFiend

ok i finished season one, and part of season two. let me just say this... i absolutely HATE suzaku..... he's a pain in the ass. i did like yuffie though, ALOT. :'( poor yuffie!

but back to lelouche and zero... sometimes i really don't think he's doing this for nunally. i think he's doing it for himself, and his own damn ego...however i find him to be very human. honestly? any one of us could end up just like him, driven by hatred and failure.... to lead us to something evil. i dont' know how the ending is, but i hope things work out for him... because he just hasn't had it fair... :(

i totally agree with you!!!
yeah i had that impression too...about him doing that more for him and not just for nunnaly...
i have seen the end...but i'm not spoiling it then...

["L"]

Alright then, when he is doing it for Nunnally, and the world, would you follow him then?