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[kenny0o0]

I just watched finish. Is their 1st season consist of 23 esp? Then is the 24th esp an alternative ending with another girl? The After Story? What is after story means? Different endings? What is Another world? lols. I have so many questions to ask.

[bonvnguyen]

Episode 24 is not the after story. It was a small story to see what happens when Tomoya and Tomoyo got together instead of Nagisa and Tomoya.

After story is the arc going to be adapted similar to the movie for the second season, where it shows what happens after Tomoya, Nagisa and the others finish and graduate from school.

Here's some information about after story. I posted this a while back in the general discussion forum:

Spoiler

After Story is a continuation of Nagisa's story, where Tomoya works as an electrician, and Nagisa starts living together with Tomoya. In this story, Nagisa faces a tragedy and continues to battle with her sickness. She also successfully gives birth to Ushio, the daughter of her and Tomoya, however Nagisa dies shortly afterwards. There will be a difference in the anime adaption of after story seeing as Nagisa dies when Ushio is around 2 to 3 years old, instead of straight away in hospital.

Ushio is Tomoya and Nagisa's daughter. She only appears in the After Story portion of the game, and in the movie. After Nagisa succeeded giving birth to Ushio, Nagisa dies. This deeply saddens Tomoya to the point he gave up raising Ushio and left her to the care of Akio and Sanae. Tomoya resorts to alcohol and cigarettes to ease depression. Five years later, Sanae arranges Tomoya and Ushio for a trip in hope for them to be together again. During the trip, Tomoya meets his grandmother, Shino and learns about his father's past that leads to him regretting his actions, and decides to raise Ushio and acknowledge Naoyuki as his father. Unfortunately, Ushio is struck with the same disease as Nagisa not long after this event. In the coming winter, wanting to do anything for Ushio, Tomoya brings Ushio for a trip, but Ushio fell unconscious and dies shortly after, and presumably Tomoya dies. Wanting to save themselves from this tragic fate, Ushio becomes the girl in the illusionary world, calling garbage doll (Tomoya) to collect the happiness around the city to create a miracle and save Nagisa and themselves. In the movie, after seeing Tomoya so depressed, his father asks his friends to take him to a train station where he meets with Ushio. It's hinted that he will stay with her and not end up like his father.

Well that explains a lot. If you've seen the movie, then you'll have an idea about what After Story is like.

[kenny0o0]

That is going to saddened me.

Nagisa will be dead , her daughter too and Tomoya still alive, which will resort like his father? However, in the end he didnt right? It is because he doesnt want to follow his father path. What a sad season it is going to be like.. I dont even feel like watching already. Is this spoiler true?


"In the coming winter, wanting to do anything for Ushio, Tomoya brings Ushio for a trip, but Ushio fell unconscious and dies shortly after, and presumably Tomoya dies. "

What does it mean? Ushio died shortly after and presume Tomoya is dead?
And suddenly Ushio becomes the girl in the illusionary and want to save Nagisa and themselves? Why suddenly like she is back alive? And why the garbage doll is Tomoya who is her father?

"In the movie, after seeing Tomoya so depressed, his father asks his friends to take him to a train station where he meets with Ushio. It's hinted that he will stay with her and not end up like his father."

Then why suddenly Tomoya is back alived? And Ushio too? And he will stay with her and not end up like his father? Aint they both dead like what you previously said?

[bonvnguyen]

"In the movie, after seeing Tomoya so depressed, his father asks his friends to take him to a train station where he meets with Ushio. It's hinted that he will stay with her and not end up like his father."

This was when Tomoya meets Ushio for the first time, which is before they go off on the snow trip together and presumably they die. We knew that Ushio died there seeing as she was found to grow with the same uncureable sickness as Nagisa. After she died, Tomoya headed into a more depressed state and how he presumely died is I assume he commited suicide or felt sick after Ushio died.

What does it mean? Ushio died shortly after and presume Tomoya is dead?
And suddenly Ushio becomes the girl in the illusionary and want to save Nagisa and themselves? Why suddenly like she is back alive? And why the garbage doll is Tomoya who is her father?

The Illusionary world, is like a fictional world of heaven or a world of dreams really where Ushio is the girl there and she named the garbage doll, Tomoya. They existed in this world after they are known to have died. Assuming from the information, Ushio and Tomoya want to build another doll but they don't have another soul to as well as go in search for Nagisa in that world. However its most likely they didn't succeed in finding Nagisa.

There's been a change which might happen in the afterstory. I don't really understand it but at least it sounds more happy then what the other Information I found, describing that most of the main characters will die. Heres an update on the Info I found. There is an assumed way Nagisa can give birth to Ushio without dieing straight away in the hospital and chances are, not dieing at all.

If Tomoya manages to collect the needed amount of light orbs, a miracle will happen using all the light orbs, and Nagisa safely delivers Ushio without dying, thus ending Tomoya's "journey with the light". Nagisa, Tomoya and Ushio are able to live together as a family without facing their doomed fate.

Well that sounds much more hopeful to prevent Nagisa's death. Light orbs I think is something that represents hope or it could be cure to heal Nagisa's sickness as well as prevent her death judging from the text.

[kenny0o0]

Originally Posted by bonvnguyen

This was when Tomoya meets Ushio for the first time, which is before they go off on the snow trip together and presumably they die. We knew that Ushio died there seeing as she was found to grow with the same uncureable sickness as Nagisa. After she died, Tomoya headed into a more depressed state and how he presumely died is I assume he commited suicide or felt sick after Ushio died.

The Illusionary world, is like a fictional world of heaven or a world of dreams really where Ushio is the girl there and she named the garbage doll, Tomoya. They existed in this world after they are known to have died. Assuming from the information, Ushio and Tomoya want to build another doll but they don't have another soul to as well as go in search for Nagisa in that world. However its most likely they didn't succeed in finding Nagisa.

There's been a change which might happen in the afterstory. I don't really understand it but at least it sounds more happy then what the other Information I found, describing that most of the main characters will die. Heres an update on the Info I found. There is an assumed way Nagisa can give birth to Ushio without dieing straight away in the hospital and chances are, not dieing at all.

If Tomoya manages to collect the needed amount of light orbs, a miracle will happen using all the light orbs, and Nagisa safely delivers Ushio without dying, thus ending Tomoya's "journey with the light". Nagisa, Tomoya and Ushio are able to live together as a family without facing their doomed fate.

Well that sounds much more hopeful to prevent Nagisa's death. Light orbs I think is something that represents hope or it could be cure to heal Nagisa's sickness as well as prevent her death judging from the text.

Thats sound much better. I really hope there will be a happy ending rather than a suffering ending which they face their doomed fate..

[bonvnguyen]

Yeah definitely. I never did like sad endings

[kenny0o0]

This is what I found from Wiki from the story ending :

"Remembering a distant world where he came from, Tomoya convinces the girl to build a ship so that the two can escape the winter and continue a happy life. However, their flight is doomed to meet tragedy."

Oh my god. I really hate this.

[bonvnguyen]

"Remembering a distant world where he came from, Tomoya convinces the girl to build a ship so that the two can escape the winter and continue a happy life. However, their flight is doomed to meet tragedy.

I looked at that on wikipedia before. They changed it now seeing as that isn't confirmed yet.

I found more information after that which is something I posted before:

"If Tomoya manages to collect the needed amount of light orbs, a miracle will happen using all the light orbs, and Nagisa safely delivers Ushio without dying, thus ending Tomoya's "journey with the light". Nagisa, Tomoya and Ushio are able to live together as a family without facing their doomed fate".

So its not all doom and gloom yet. The miracle might happen.

[kenny0o0]

Originally Posted by bonvnguyen

I looked at that on wikipedia before. They changed it now seeing as that isn't confirmed yet.

I found more information after that which is something I posted before:

"If Tomoya manages to collect the needed amount of light orbs, a miracle will happen using all the light orbs, and Nagisa safely delivers Ushio without dying, thus ending Tomoya's "journey with the light". Nagisa, Tomoya and Ushio are able to live together as a family without facing their doomed fate".

So its not all doom and gloom yet. The miracle might happen.

I hope they better draw something like dat to happen. Maybe their orginial ending will be that they faced their doomed fate. After that, then they made a extra esp in which they dont need to face their doomed fate. That would be so cool.