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Old 03-14-2008, 07:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Ergo Proxy Anime- werewolf myth updated?

Just saw the brilliant Ergo proxy, 1st couple of episodes
at friend's.I haven't seen the rest but it looks
like an update of the Wereeolf myth updated
to sci-fi level.

Am i wrong?

Good job though!Very atmospheric and
it's not much of a spoiler but those talking
stone statues in all the episodes with the
disconnected voices made my skin creep!

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iron lion

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Old 03-14-2008, 08:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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[email]the_iron_lion@hotmail.co.uk[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> Just saw the brilliant Ergo proxy, 1st couple of episodes
> at friend's.I haven't seen the rest but it looks
> like an update of the Wereeolf myth updated
> to sci-fi level.
>
> Am i wrong?
>[/color]

Depends on how exact the definition of Werewolf myth or mythos has to be
for you. Kind of a subjective thing, I think.

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There are some tortured souls, and there are some shape shifters, and
some are both. In a very general sense, yeah, it's like a werewolf
myth, to me.

I hadn't really thought about it that way. Interesting.

DBB




 
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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<the_iron_lion@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Just saw the brilliant Ergo proxy, 1st couple of episodes
> at friend's.I haven't seen the rest but it looks
> like an update of the Wereeolf myth updated
> to sci-fi level.
>
> Am i wrong?
>
> Good job though!Very atmospheric and
> it's not much of a spoiler but those talking
> stone statues in all the episodes with the
> disconnected voices made my skin creep![/color]

I never thought of it as a Were wolf myth anime. It is a good Sci-fi anime.
One of the producers of the artwork was at Anime Fest this past year. They
did every frame in Photoshop. He had some examples on his laptop. He was
quiet disappointed with the Japanese DVD release, as it missed many of the
tiny elements that they put into the art work. He was looking forward to a
HD version at some point. I don't think the talking stone figures helped
the story. They are never clearly explained in the series.



Bobby



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> NEW MUSIC VIDEO on the socio-political "Situation" of today
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> [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/99042702/jj_appleby-situation_xvid_direct[/url]...
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Old 03-14-2008, 11:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You know, I tried to follow this when it was televised last year, but
large parts of it were just too dark and murky for me to really feel
confident that I knew what was happening.........literally too dark.
Even watching it with all the lights off, I'd lose track of the action
sometimes. I probably do need new glasses, but, still, it didn't have to
be _so_ darned dark to pull off dystopia...........

 
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Old 03-15-2008, 12:32 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Mark Jones wrote:[color=blue]
> You know, I tried to follow this when it was televised last year, but
> large parts of it were just too dark and murky for me to really feel
> confident that I knew what was happening.........literally too dark.
> Even watching it with all the lights off, I'd lose track of the action
> sometimes. I probably do need new glasses, but, still, it didn't have to
> be _so_ darned dark to pull off dystopia...........
>[/color]

I *adored* this series. Watched on a big screen, with the lights off! Of
all the Anime I've seen in recent years, I think this is the one that
clicked with me the best. But then I do totally love sci-fi, and strong
female character leads.

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Old 03-15-2008, 12:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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[email]the_iron_lion@hotmail.co.uk[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> Just saw the brilliant Ergo proxy, 1st couple of episodes
> at friend's.I haven't seen the rest but it looks
> like an update of the Wereeolf myth updated
> to sci-fi level.
>
> Am i wrong?
>
> Good job though!Very atmospheric and
> it's not much of a spoiler but those talking
> stone statues in all the episodes with the
> disconnected voices made my skin creep!
>
> NEW MUSIC VIDEO on the socio-political "Situation" of today[/color]

Fab series isn't it!? I loved it so much. I guess I didn't pick up on
the warewolf feel; to me it came across as the perfect sci-fi riff.
Packced full of innovative ideas, questioning what it is to be human,
how technology can corrupt & enhance our lives... oh I wont go on and
one, but I really really liked this series.

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Old 03-15-2008, 04:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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DBBrandell <NoSuchUser@nosuchaccount.net> wrote:
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> [email]the_iron_lion@hotmail.co.uk[/email] wrote:[color=green]
> > Just saw the brilliant Ergo proxy, 1st couple of episodes
> > at friend's.I haven't seen the rest but it looks
> > like an update of the Wereeolf myth updated
> > to sci-fi level.
> >
> > Am i wrong?[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> Depends on how exact the definition of Werewolf myth or mythos has to be
> for you. Kind of a subjective thing, I think.[/color]

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> I hadn't really thought about it that way. Interesting.[/color]

I'm trying not to spoil this, but just in case...










I think that the werewolf mythos is only a component of the
main theme of the show. I think the reason why some (most?)
folks don't pick up on the werewolf theme is that there is
more going on than just the issue of a monster running
around. For example, we all have the question of "what is
a Proxy", but it is couched more like "what was and is the
function of Proxies in that society?" because it is quite
clear there was an agenda. Which brought the audience to
the question of "what was or is the agenda?" (note, "the
agenda", not "there agenda"). To me, Ergo Proxy was more
of a dark SF version of "The Prisoner", which means I like
Ergo Proxy (I liked "The Prisoner" a lot). (OK, some might
argue, "The Prisoner" was SF, too)

ru

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Old 03-16-2008, 11:15 PM   #8 (permalink)
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:06:23 +0000, Ru Igarashi wrote:
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> agenda", not "there agenda"). To me, Ergo Proxy was more
> of a dark SF version of "The Prisoner", which means I like
> Ergo Proxy (I liked "The Prisoner" a lot). (OK, some might
> argue, "The Prisoner" was SF, too)[/color]

I wouldn't. :)

Anyway, yeah, there is just *so* *much* in Ergo Proxy that it can be
overwhelming at times. The subtle things can be lost if you don't pay
attention -- and sometimes even if you do. Definitely something I want to
spend some time and watch as a whole.
 
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Old 03-17-2008, 12:17 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Sun, 16 Mar 2008 7:15pm-0400, Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@newsguy.com>:
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> On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:06:23 +0000, Ru Igarashi wrote:
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> > agenda", not "there agenda"). To me, Ergo Proxy was more
> > of a dark SF version of "The Prisoner", which means I like
> > Ergo Proxy (I liked "The Prisoner" a lot). (OK, some might
> > argue, "The Prisoner" was SF, too)[/color]
>
> I wouldn't. :)
>
> Anyway, yeah, there is just *so* *much* in Ergo Proxy that it can be
> overwhelming at times. The subtle things can be lost if you don't pay
> attention -- and sometimes even if you do. Definitely something I want to
> spend some time and watch as a whole.
>[/color]

Yeah, subtle like the series being anti-cosmetic makeup. ^_^

Laters. =)

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Old 03-17-2008, 05:14 AM   #10 (permalink)
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> Mark Jones wrote:[color=green]
>> You know, I tried to follow this when it was televised last year, but
>> large parts of it were just too dark and murky for me to really feel
>> confident that I knew what was happening.........literally too dark.
>> Even watching it with all the lights off, I'd lose track of the action
>> sometimes. I probably do need new glasses, but, still, it didn't have to
>> be _so_ darned dark to pull off dystopia...........[/color]
>
> I *adored* this series. Watched on a big screen, with the lights off! Of
> all the Anime I've seen in recent years, I think this is the one that
> clicked with me the best. But then I do totally love sci-fi, and strong
> female character leads.[/color]

Real is one of the best female leads in years in Anime.

Bobby


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