(OT) And, In Conclusion -- Star Wars - The Clone Wars

Aya the Vampire Slayer <ryoko@gatech.rmv.this.part.edu> wa:[color=blue]
>- Avatar, Code Lyoko, Teen Titans, WinMX, NeoTokyo and any other[/color]
Darnit, I meant MegaTokyo here... ^^^^^^^^
As you can see, I read a lot of those threads (/sarcasm).

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"Keep your fingers off the lens." --Elton Byington, English Translator

SpaceGirl <nothespacegirlspam@subhuman.net> wrote:[color=blue]
> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:[color=green]
>> SpaceGirl <nothespacegirlspam@subhuman.net> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Yes. Every post, multi-directional mirroring at a database level.
>>> The database servers have a heartbeat between them that sync every
>>> time there is a change (at least in the case of our corp coms
>>> thing).[/color]
>>
>> From that additional privately run mirror as well? IBTD.[/color]
>
> Of course, it wouldn't work otherwise. Someone posts to server X, and
> that post appears within 5 minutes on servers Y and Z. If someone was
> to respond to that post on server Z, it'd be replicated on X and Y
> within 5 minutes. And so on. Each article has a unique serial to
> prevent primary key conflicts.[/color]

*sigh*

You still don't get it.

Let's try this again. Let's say the your system is clustered over three
servers X, Y, Z. Now I'm setting up my server A. How does my server A
become part of the cluster, so that my users have access to stuff users
of X, Y and Z have posted, and that stuff posted on my server A is
replicated to X, Y and Z?

cu
59cobalt
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"My surname is Li and my personal name is Kao, and there is a slight
flaw in my character."
--Li Kao (Barry Hughart: Bridge of Birds)

SpaceGirl <nothespacegirlspam@subhuman.net> wrote:[color=blue]
> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:[color=green]
>> I'll repeat my question, since you apperently didn't understand it
>> the first time: can anyone set up and run an additional mirror, that
>> has the full functionality as the other mirrors and is automatically
>> integrated into the existing cluster?[/color]
>
> Ah sorry, I misunderstood. Well this is a private network, so "no".
> But I could have a new server rolled out in a new location within a
> few hours. The initial sync would take a while as it grabbed 2Gb of
> content, but after that the syncs that run every 5 minutes would
> maintain the new mirror.[/color]

Now think about this for a minute, and you may begin to understand why
this does *not* compare to Usenet.

cu
59cobalt
--
"My surname is Li and my personal name is Kao, and there is a slight
flaw in my character."
--Li Kao (Barry Hughart: Bridge of Birds)

Before I continue replying to this Sea Wasp post, I want to say
something to the rest of the forum:

Can you guys please be quiet? I'm trying to discuss Star
Wars here!

And it IS relevant because there was a manga! There!
Defeat my inscrutable reasoning! ;)

On Aug 18, 11:24 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
<seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> What he had NOT planned from the beginning was Vader being Luke's
> father, and it screws up a number of things (makes the Jedi into
> weasels, for one thing).[/color]

I thought it worked fine for the initial trilogy.
[color=blue]
> Look up the earlier scripts; the original script he had was a monstrous
> thing called The Star Wars that would've been something like 20 hours to
> film and, while it included many elements from the movies we've seen,
> was overall very, very different.[/color]

I once read a multi-page SUMMARY of an old SW concept,
but I've never found this Monster Script. Got any links?
[color=blue]
> OOG-OOG Sky-Walker invented the *CLUB*![/color]

Meanwhile, Jerry Lewis Skywalker hyperspaced into Earth-space
in the 1970s and was indirectly responsible for the *real* best
trilogy of the 1980s: Back to the Future!

"8-Bit Star" <nesstar@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:16dab148-8111-4e6f-9038-b068608a8f5b@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Before I continue replying to this Sea Wasp post, I want to say
> something to the rest of the forum:
>
> Can you guys please be quiet? I'm trying to discuss Star
> Wars here!
>
> And it IS relevant because there was a manga! There!
> Defeat my inscrutable reasoning! ;)
>
> On Aug 18, 11:24 am, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> <seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> What he had NOT planned from the beginning was Vader being Luke's
>> father, and it screws up a number of things (makes the Jedi into
>> weasels, for one thing).[/color]
>
> I thought it worked fine for the initial trilogy.
>[color=green]
>> Look up the earlier scripts; the original script he had was a
>> monstrous
>> thing called The Star Wars that would've been something like 20 hours to
>> film and, while it included many elements from the movies we've seen,
>> was overall very, very different.[/color]
>
> I once read a multi-page SUMMARY of an old SW concept,
> but I've never found this Monster Script. Got any links?
>[color=green]
>> OOG-OOG Sky-Walker invented the *CLUB*![/color]
>
> Meanwhile, Jerry Lewis Skywalker hyperspaced into Earth-space
> in the 1970s and was indirectly responsible for the *real* best
> trilogy of the 1980s: Back to the Future![/color]

It was just a visit to a small planet, and not relevant to the discussion
here.

I changed the header so you'd see that I'm responding to your post
alone..........if I quote, I have to manually type the whole quote, so
adding three words to a header seemed better than retyping your whole
post.


Well, shoot, I thought I was doing better these days.......I've been
quoting more, but it's true, I've avoided quoting when it's involved
quotes within quotes. When those start piling up, it can be pretty
difficult to keep them straight, especially in long threads like this.
Honestly, in cases like that, I've seen quotes attributed to people who
I KNOW didn't say what they're credited with........and that done by PC
users. When you have to type in the quotes, as I do, you can see how
confusing that could get.


BTW, you mention that my quoting is one reason that you sometimes have
trouble following my posts........while we're on the subject, we might
as well tackle the rest of the problems, so could you tell me what they
are? If it's the trailing-off sentence thing, that's just the way I
talk..........anything else, I'm all ears.


OK, time for a webtv tutorial........sensitive readers may be disturbed
by the following..........


Webtv comes out of the box complete.......you can hook it up to
printers, etc, but, as far as the device itself goes, what you see is
what you get. You can't alter it, add or swap parts, any of that. Sure,
you probably could if you had the technical expertise to safely void the
warrantee, but then you wouldn't be using the darned thing in the first
place. So, practically speaking, you're stuck with whatever capabilities
have already been built into it. This includes the newsreader. Frankly,
I'm surprised it works as well as it seems to! I don't think Microsoft
thought that many users would be spending much time in
newsgroups.......when webtv first came out, it was targeted at people
who might want to spend a few minutes catching up on email, maybe look
at some pics of the grandkids, that kind of thing.........the newsreader
seems almost like an afterthought that they put in just in case a few
guys like me showed up along the way.



The thing is, webtv comes out of the box with something else.........a
hearty handshake and welcome to the internet. Above and beyond that, not
so much.......you get just enough information to get you ON the net, but
then it's trial-and-error time........with users, like me, who usually
don't even know what to look for, let alone how to look for it. Other
than porn, of course.......you'd have to actually be dead not to be able
to find that.



Well, that's it.........I don't know whether I can do much better with
this setup. Sorry to cause whatever trouble it's been, but I generally
have no way of knowing that anything's wrong at all until somebody yells
at me to cut it the hell out! @_@;;

Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:[color=blue]
> SpaceGirl <nothespacegirlspam@subhuman.net> wrote:[color=green]
>> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> SpaceGirl <nothespacegirlspam@subhuman.net> wrote:
>>>> Yes. Every post, multi-directional mirroring at a database level.
>>>> The database servers have a heartbeat between them that sync every
>>>> time there is a change (at least in the case of our corp coms
>>>> thing).
>>> From that additional privately run mirror as well? IBTD.[/color]
>> Of course, it wouldn't work otherwise. Someone posts to server X, and
>> that post appears within 5 minutes on servers Y and Z. If someone was
>> to respond to that post on server Z, it'd be replicated on X and Y
>> within 5 minutes. And so on. Each article has a unique serial to
>> prevent primary key conflicts.[/color]
>
> *sigh*
>
> You still don't get it.
>
> Let's try this again. Let's say the your system is clustered over three
> servers X, Y, Z. Now I'm setting up my server A. How does my server A
> become part of the cluster, so that my users have access to stuff users
> of X, Y and Z have posted, and that stuff posted on my server A is
> replicated to X, Y and Z?
>
> cu
> 59cobalt[/color]

You tell me your IP address, and I set a replication rule.

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x theSpaceGirl (miranda)

[url]http://www.northleithmill.com[/url]

-.-

Kammy has a new home: [url]http://www.bitesizedjapan.com[/url]

SpaceGirl wrote on [Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:36:53 +0100]:[color=blue]
> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:[color=green]
>> SpaceGirl <nothespacegirlspam@subhuman.net> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>>>> SpaceGirl <nothespacegirlspam@subhuman.net> wrote:
>>>>> Yes. Every post, multi-directional mirroring at a database level.
>>>>> The database servers have a heartbeat between them that sync every
>>>>> time there is a change (at least in the case of our corp coms
>>>>> thing).
>>>> From that additional privately run mirror as well? IBTD.
>>> Of course, it wouldn't work otherwise. Someone posts to server X, and
>>> that post appears within 5 minutes on servers Y and Z. If someone was
>>> to respond to that post on server Z, it'd be replicated on X and Y
>>> within 5 minutes. And so on. Each article has a unique serial to
>>> prevent primary key conflicts.[/color]
>>
>> *sigh*
>>
>> You still don't get it.
>>
>> Let's try this again. Let's say the your system is clustered over three
>> servers X, Y, Z. Now I'm setting up my server A. How does my server A
>> become part of the cluster, so that my users have access to stuff users
>> of X, Y and Z have posted, and that stuff posted on my server A is
>> replicated to X, Y and Z?
>>
>> cu
>> 59cobalt[/color]
>
> You tell me your IP address, and I set a replication rule.[/color]

What happens when the IP changes?

Justin wrote:
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Let's try this again. Let's say the your system is clustered over three
>>> servers X, Y, Z. Now I'm setting up my server A. How does my server A
>>> become part of the cluster, so that my users have access to stuff users
>>> of X, Y and Z have posted, and that stuff posted on my server A is
>>> replicated to X, Y and Z?[/color][/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> You tell me your IP address, and I set a replication rule.[/color]
>
> What happens when the IP changes?[/color]

It wouldn't, or in our case we actually use domains, so we can (and
have) updated our DNS entries to reflect new servers being added to the
pool.

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x theSpaceGirl (miranda)

[url]http://www.northleithmill.com[/url]

-.-

Kammy has a new home: [url]http://www.bitesizedjapan.com[/url]

<follow-ups sent to rec.arts.animation>

Hey again, Pete. I'm the unofficial rec.arts.anime.misc ambassor of
rec.arts.animation. I have crossposted your review to
rec.arts.animation, as my official invitation to you, to join us. We
don't bite. We don't make noise. We LOVE animation from all parts of
the world. (We don't like live-action movie review - fair warning.)

You're reviews of Kung Fu Panda, Wall-E, Space Chimps, and Clone Wars
are all welcome and encouraged in rec.arts.animation.

You can find (and post to) us for free, through Google Groups, if you
wish:
[url]http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.animation[/url]

Hope to read you there. Again.

Pete Holland Jr. wrote:[color=blue]
> Before I started writing this review, I put up a Lexan shield, I put
> on a Redman suit, and I put on the strongest, bullet-proof steel cup I
> could find. Reviewing Star Wars movies always lands me in trouble. I
> reviewed Phantom Menace for an apa I was writing for at the time (I
> thought it was lame), and got into a feud with the central mailer that
> lasted until the group went under. I reviewed Attack Of The Clones
> for my old web page (I thought it was weak), and got nailed by
> Netizens. In short, if there is ANY review I write that I'm expecting
> to inspire backtalk from the troops, it's this one.
>
> Star Wars has always struck me as the strangest movie death spiral I
> have ever seen. I don't buy the whole, "You were a kid when you saw
> the first Star Wars, so you can't feel the magic like that again,"
> that people invariably trot out. I consider the first two, New Hope
> and Empire, to be cinematic classics, from the cinema verite
> atmosphere of many of the scenes to Lucas' directing knowing just what
> to do in a given scene. In NH, Han and Leia's future was spelled out
> in the trash compactor scene, when after it is shut down, the camera
> cuts to a short but very visible view of Han and Leia hugging each
> other warmly. (I'm not as impressed with how Joseph Campbell-ish the
> first series was. Considering Campbell helped with the story outline,
> of course it's going to be Campbell-ish.) But with Return Of The
> Jedi, things went horribly askew. Some great stuff was still there.
> The scene where that AT-AT comes out of the forest was amazingly
> chilling. The Skiff battle over the Sarlac pit. Luke's final battle
> where he was dueling more with temptation than with Vader or the
> Emperor. The way a simple change in angle and lighting made Vader's
> mask express sorrow, remorse, and anger during the face-off with the
> Emperor. But it was drowned by a wave of questionable choices. The
> gravitas of the situations was gone, starting with high-ranking Rebel
> officers going on a purely personal rescue mission of Han Solo.
> Everyone has already picked apart the whole Ewok thing. Lame humor
> and cliched plot devices. Yoda suddenly sounding like Super Grover.
> Boba Fett died for a burp joke. The list goes on and on.
>
> The subsequent movies, including the remixes (a.k.a. Special
> Editions), only reinforced the idea that Lucas was more interested in
> showing off visual effects than telling stories. With Clone Wars,
> Lucas has abandoned storytelling all together. As executive producer,
> he has some say in how things take shape. When it comes to art,
> people make what interests them. People learning to cook can't wait
> to try their favorite recipes. Fanboys can't wait to draw their
> favorite super heroes. Here, Lucas has approved an art style where
> only pre-existing models he's created look good, any human element or
> fantastic new world gets the short end of the stick.
>
> This is supposedly a pilot for a Star Wars TV series. Whatever. It
> takes place after AotC but obviously before RotS. The plot is kind of
> a grab bag. At its most basic, the son of Jabba the Hutt has been
> kidnapped, and the Jedi are on the case. But the actual storyline
> bobs and weaves all over the place, trying to keep you guessing with
> twists and turns. Compared to the "Whadyamean, it's not over yet?!?"
> expertly utilized by Christopher Nolan in The Dark Knight, the film is
> busy but not exactly engaging.
>
> It really is a letdown. I wasn't dazzled by the space fights or Jedi
> battles, I was bored silly. They felt more like they were holding up
> the movie from going through its plot points (at over two hours long,
> a little tightening would have been nice). The living creatures look
> ridiculous in the art style. In fact, the whole movie looks like it
> was made toys instead of an artistic style. The movie features a lot
> of elements of Golden Age sci-fi. The movie doesn't start off with a
> crawl but with an Omniscient Narrator bringing us up to speed. When
> Anakin contacts "Commander Cody", I actually said aloud, "You have GOT
> to be kidding me!" And once again, the Secret Passage That
> Conveniently No One Else Knows About is introduced again.
>
> By the way, a quick note about character creation. When the Gungans
> in PM showed up, I saw why people said they were insulting to African-
> Americans, but I cut Lucas some slack as he wasn't insulting anyone,
> he was trying to create an alien race that worked for the movie. When
> the Trade Federation ambassadors talked like the announcers on Banzai,
> I saw why people said they were insulting to Asians, but I cut Lucas
> some slack as he wasn't trying to insult anyone, just make a race that
> sounded alien without falling back on the old, "good guys have
> American accents, bad guys have British accents" thing. But even the
> most forgiving, lenient, or apologetic movie viewer will find their
> brains doing a kernel panic the first time they see and hear Zero The
> Hutt. And that's all I'm going to say on the subject.
>
> Part way through, I started identifying things that seemed to be
> inspired by other media. The Spider Droids made me think of
> Octorocs. Covert troopers had me thinking of Halo, which borrows a
> lot from Star Wars itself (speaking of series that borrow heavily from
> Star Wars, I think I recall a couple of starfighters looking vaguely
> like Arwings from StarFox, but don't hold me to that). In fact, the
> movie itself feels like a video game demo, complete with characters
> explaining the goal for the next level...I mean, the next part of the
> plot.
>
> The little things continue to bug me. The droids communicating
> aurally instead of electronically. Humor with strange subjects, like
> the lead droid telling a literally fallen comrade, "Get back up
> here." R2D2 doing his King Of The Rocketmen routine (and there's that
> Commander Cody memory set again....). The "clones" having different
> hair colors, styles, etc. The banter between Anakin and his trainee
> (why exactly did she wait so long to blow the shield generator?).
>
> With a little less running time and a little more freshness to the
> script, not to mention going in a different direction instead of
> trying to incorporate Star Wars elements, Clone Wars could have been a
> perfectly acceptable, maybe even fun sci-fi adventure like Ice
> Pirates. Instead, it comes nowhere near the first two movies. Let's
> just hope that, when Lucas decides to actually do those other three
> movies he denies he ever meant to make (movies making more money at
> the box office that Star Wars seem to trigger his filmmaking desires,
> and now Dark Knight has joined Titanic as being ahead of Star Wars),
> he gets back to what made the movies so engaging -- the characters,
> not the visuals. The steak, not the sizzle.[/color]

Terrence Briggs, didn't see the naughty Clone Wars commercials
everyone's complaining about. Saw the all-purpose action extravaganza
ones, though.
Peace to you...