Atheists

[absolute_terror]

i respect your belief skull, like i said i don't expect anyone to accept my belief or my faith, people will call me ignorant and fool, fine, i'm not insulted by that, i did mention i believe in the creation of men stated in the bible and there is no possible proof i can give but the written scriptures itself, for people who does't believe in it, it's fine with me and debates will happen not just from people of diff religious sects but as well as people with diff beliefs outside religion, i just post a portion of where i got my beliefs, i don't mind reading others posting where they get the things they believe in, even a small portion would help. i myself don't follow any religion, but that doesn't mean my beliefs is based on mere fascination, there is a hard copy of how i came to be in this world..i just shared it, didn't mean to offend other religion.

if you can read my previous post, i have nothing but respect, no one here expect to accept our beliefs except those with the same faith...anyway if i have mentioned things that insulted other people,well i'm very willing to apologize, well i'm off, i enjoyed reading what others posts here...

[Opacic_A]

I'm not an Atheist, I'm an Agnostic.

I choose to believe that there if there is in fact a deity or deities in this world, then we haven't found him, her, or them, and they haven't found us.

Though what really grinds my gears if when people go out and say "LOL EVOLUTION IS WRONG, HUMANS ARE SPESHUL, GAWD IS REAL AND HE MADE US" without bringing anything to the table except a 2000 year old book of questionable origin.

It's like trying to prove that a tea pot is in orbit somewhere between Mars and Earth, try and disprove me, as illogical as it sounds it could still be possible. But is it really relevant anyway? (Oh, and the idea that the Earth orbits around the Sun is also a theory)

[Paprika]

We are just simply spiralling coils of self-replicating DNA
so listen Eric Idle

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[playa_chan]

Originally Posted by wondering

I'm not trying to personally attack any atheists here in animea so don't take this personally. I don't get it. If an atheist believes that when he/she dies, they'll only be six feet under, then why don't they just pick a religion? I am not endorsing any particular religion in any shape, form, or manner. I'm just saying, pick a religion and follow it. If the religious people were right, and you picked the "right religion" then congratulations, you're in heaven. If the religious people were wrong all along, then you're still six feet under like you originally thought. What have you got to lose? Anyone know what I mean?

>> "" If an atheist believes that when he/she dies, they'll only be six feet under, then why don't they just pick a religion?"" <<

As far as i am concerned, an atheist is someone who does not believe in god. This does not automatically mean that the atheist also believes that he is going to hell.
Atheists do not believe in god, but they do have their own beliefs regarding to what will happen to them after they die. There are many different possibilities that are to be considered for the afterlife/after death situation. For example:
1. reincarnation
2. Become one with the nature since your body will become dust someday and you will literrally mix with the nature.
3. nothing. some people believe in the nothingness after death... everything is over after death...
4. ....
There are many more theories... the "heaven and hell" theorie is just 1 out of a thousand.


>>""then why don't they just pick a religion? I am not endorsing any particular religion in any shape, form, or manner. I'm just saying, pick a religion and follow it. ""<<

Following a religion and believing in a religion are 2 different things. Anyone could follow a religion, as in going to the church, reading the bible, doing the ramadan,...etc. But what does following a religion bring you when you really dont believe in it. Trying to make an atheist believe in god is like trying to make you believe in santa claus again. It is impossible. I believe you become an atheist when you start questioning yourself all the things you havent gotten a logical/scientifically proven/just proven answer. The answers to those questions lies within the religion for the religious people.

I personally think, (and without wanting to offend any religious opinions who stubbornly want to believe that they believe to the core), there are and will always be at least little atheistic thoughts and questions within everyone of us, religious or not.

I dont say religion is a marketing ploy, but to be honest, a lot of people really do invest a lot of money on their religion. For example take all the expensive paintings and potraits, also there are a lot of very expensive mugs, lucky charms and other small stuff.. and i dont even want to start talking about how much money scientology gets. Even though i think scientology was considered more as a cult than a religion.


The middle age or dark age or whatever you call it in english .. I mean the time before 200 years or somewhere there... I remember something i learned in school.. There were churches who sold some kind of coupon which could forgive you sins... so if someone sinned he just had to buy the coupon or 'donate' as in make a new church or pay the renovation for it .... and then he could get this coupon and so he was sure to not go to hell... it was like a ticket to heaven for some people. But that was a long time ago. I just want to show how Religion has blinded many people before and still can.


Oh, well i think i got swayed away a little and got off topic a little ;__;

[sawreese]

Isnt not believing in a god a theology itself? The absence of religion can be considered a religion. Therefore there is a difference between the people who are commonly dubbed atheists. Its kinda like the difference between 0 and undefined in math. Undefined are the true atheists even though the term has shifted to the 0s (No offense, but i will dub them as this from here on) who just dont believe in any current religion but unknowingly have created their own based on a sense of what is right and wrong in their eyes. In the case of the undefined, the concept of heaven/hell/nirvana...ect. would only appy to them if they believed in Something at all, even nothing. but since they have no beliefs, they their point is they cant be judged. The 0s on the other hand, really have their own belief system so it would be like asking a christian like me why im not a buddist too so i can double my chances of landing on the upside of the afterlife. the answer is my beliefs conflict with theirs so in reality, if i tried to get in both, id get neither. An example would be to compare christians with 0s. If a 0 followed christianity, something of meaning would be lost. this something of meaning is why the 0 did not become a christian to begin with. it may be independence or pleasure in a certain category of life or what ever. So then they would have to throw away thier beliefs for someone elses they didnt choose and most likely would not be able to meet the requirements of any religion. thus they are left with nothing.

[khaosmonk]

Picking a religion is not that simple. To truly be something, it takes real faith, not just randomly saying something like "i'll be christian because i dont have a religion". People should just believe what they sincerely feel is right instead of being swayed into a false faith. Therefore, being atheist is just fine..

[Deekle7]

Originally Posted by mercer_sensei

Yeah, I had a discussion with my chemistry professor one day. He was saying that there are three possibilities about religion:

• 2. There is a god, and you dont believe in him, then you go to hell

I combat this with "God forgives the deepest sins"

Also I am an Atheist due to mostly personal reasons. Believe in god to me is like believing in the tooth fairy or santa clause. Its just not real.

Everyone is looking for an explanation and they will go to any means to make something that makes sense.

I myself had a lot of personal stories that i'd rather not share. I lost all my faith and now I don't believe in any gods. I'd rather read about confusionism since it is more of a way of life then after life.

If anything i'd think when we die we get reincarnated , but I havn't experienced it so...

[thatguyisbrett]

Originally Posted by wondering

I'm not trying to personally attack any atheists here in animea so don't take this personally. I don't get it. If an atheist believes that when he/she dies, they'll only be six feet under, then why don't they just pick a religion? I am not endorsing any particular religion in any shape, form, or manner. I'm just saying, pick a religion and follow it. If the religious people were right, and you picked the "right religion" then congratulations, you're in heaven. If the religious people were wrong all along, then you're still six feet under like you originally thought. What have you got to lose? Anyone know what I mean?

first of all religion is not something you choose to follow without truly believing in it. in the scenario that your religion was the right on how do you think god would look at someone who pretended their whole life to believe in him?

i am not an atheist but i think the idea that any religion is right about god is absurd. i refuse to believe that there is some santa-esque omnipotent peeping tom out there who watches me when im in the shower. too many questions come up for me to believe that any religion has it right

what about aborigines in australia or africa? these people may have never even heard of jesus and somehow they go to hell for it? it just doesnt make sense to me.

if 1 religion really is the right one and god is all powerful and omnipotent why doesnt he just stop us all one day and say "hey guys its me god. i just want you all to know the religion that is right is ...... *drumroll* .... shinto!!" or whatever it is.

all religions have a common core set of values that boils down to: be good to eachother. this idea is built into our dna (see biological altruism). we all have an inate urge deep down to not destroy our own species. it could be argued that we could easily come up with the 10 comandments on our own without needing god to strike them onto a stone tablet.

but really, im not an atheist. atheism implies the certainty that there is no god. i believe that there had to be a "god" being, object or plain of existence or something that created the entire universe. something doesnt just come from nothing. maybe god plays a major role in our day to day lives or maybe god just created everything and let it all work its own course. or maybe there is no being that is a god but our own consciousness is god. the only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain. ~Montaigne