Homosexuality

[kami]

I can't help it, I really want to know people's thoughts on this topic.

Is it wrong to be homosexual? Is it against God? Can people choose not to be homosexual? Are people born that way? Is it a crime against nature? Are any of the homosexual stereotypes true? Are there more homosexual males than females?

This should be fun. ^^

[Barzillal]

I do not mind homosexuals and I have nothing against them.
However, if they like any other man or woman "sexually exploiting" others I say its a crime against humanity

[mercer_sensei]

Originally Posted by kami

I can't help it, I really want to know people's thoughts on this topic.

Is it wrong to be homosexual?

I dont like it, in fact I actually find it disgusting, but I can tolerate it, I even have a couple frinds that are homosexual... Ill let you do as you please as long as you dont try to push it onto me. I dont think male/female PDA is very courteous, and I really dont think male/male or female/female PDA is courteous at all either. Its great to love someone, but keep that shit behind closed doors...

Originally Posted by kami

Is it against God?

Yes. There is no doubt that God struck down the cities of Sodom and Gammorah because they were filled with homosexual individuals. Therefore it impossible for there to be a Christian homosexual.

Originally Posted by kami

Can people choose not to be homosexual?

I have no idea, I dont think like them, so I dont know if they are able to think that way. I personally cant think of being homosexual, so I dont know if they are able to think any other way.

Originally Posted by kami

Are people born that way? Is it a crime against nature?

I dont know about the whole being born homosexual disposition thing, but I think it could happen. I dont consider it a crime against nature, I just dont think that homosexuals ought to reproduce. If it is in there genes to be homosexual, then if they were in the wild, they wouldnt be able to reproduce, so they ought not to in society either.

Originally Posted by kami

Are any of the homosexual stereotypes true?

I can usually pick male homosexuals out of a crowd. I cant pick all of them and sometimes Im wrong, but they tend to carry a different aura than striaght people. Im not good at picking out female homosexuals, well I can pick the really butch dyke bitches, but not many of the other ones.

Originally Posted by kami

Are there more homosexual males than females?

I cant say that Ive ever even wondered about this.

Originally Posted by kami

This should be fun. ^^

I really like this debate section! ^^

[aca85]

i consider myself to be a open and good person,and to have a neutral or positive view on most things BUT I HATE FAGS! ... that's not natural!
I DO LOVE GAY-BASHING! ... sorry if this offends any1,but i don't care.

[skullreken]

Personally i don't have anything against them as long as their relationships are consensual and they don't force themselves on me when I tell them that I'm straight.
I don't think that it is a genetic thing I think that it is more of a mental thing that occurs during a child's development there have been plenty of gays who hid what they were back when it was illegal to be gay married people of the opposite sex and had kids who turned out to be straight. So I think to ban them from reproducing is stupid we would be revisiting the forced castration of people who had what were considered to be inferior genes back in Nazi Germany and the certain countries during the early study of genetics in the 50's and 60's.Personally I am not up for same sex couples raising children I think it is unnatural and can warp the child.
As about detecting gays it's as Mercer said you kind of get a feeling about them and 90% of the time you are right one thing I have noticed is that gays rarely tend to act camp more often than not effeminate men are straight I tell you something you don't want to insult any of my gay friends because they would beat the shit out of you!

[SnifflingDarK]

i am a bisexual and to me homosexuals and hetrosexuals are just people i do not lable them as for i do not wished to be lable ether
i know who i am and what i am and pride is what i feel

[mercer_sensei]

sorry if weve offended ya snifflingdark, but even though i know its morally wrong to judge people, everyone does it and I do too. I judge people. Someones past makes them do something, its cool with me. Just because I dont agree with them, I try not to be overtly biased towards them. If a female that I liked used to be homosexual or is bisexual, as long as she is faithful to me, her past is important but not the deciding factor.

[kami]

Originally Posted by mercer_sensei

I dont like it, in fact I actually find it disgusting, but I can tolerate it, I even have a couple frinds that are homosexual... Ill let you do as you please as long as you dont try to push it onto me.

Originally Posted by skullreken

Personally i don't have anything against them as long as their relationships are consensual and they don't force themselves on me when I tell them that I'm straight.

Are you guys saying that homosexuals are more likely to push their sexuality on straight people than straights on gays? I've never heard of many people trying to seduce straight people, so I don't get what the problem is here...

Originally Posted by mercer_sensei

Yes. There is no doubt that God struck down the cities of Sodom and Gammorah because they were filled with homosexual individuals. Therefore it impossible for there to be a Christian homosexual.

Sorry, but I completely disagree. It may be against the teachings of the bible for people to be gay, but plenty of Christians are homosexual. I have an uncle who is Christian and gay, and he doesn't seem to have any problems. My whole family accepts him, and everything is good.

Originally Posted by mercer_sensei

I dont know about the whole being born homosexual disposition thing, but I think it could happen. I dont consider it a crime against nature, I just dont think that homosexuals ought to reproduce. If it is in there genes to be homosexual, then if they were in the wild, they wouldnt be able to reproduce, so they ought not to in society either.

You obviously have something against homosexuals, if you don't think they should reproduce. But homosexuality has lasted through centuries, and may have been in existence even since humans came into existence. I don't think they're going to go away any time soon.[/quote]

Originally Posted by skullreken

I don't think that it is a genetic thing I think that it is more of a mental thing that occurs during a child's development there have been plenty of gays who hid what they were back when it was illegal to be gay married people of the opposite sex and had kids who turned out to be straight.

It may also be that people become homosexual while in the womb, because they are introduced to different hormones at different times with different concentrations. That might explain why there is a range of how homosexual people really are, with straight being at one end, homosexual at the other, and bisexual in the middle.

Originally Posted by skullreken

As about detecting gays it's as Mercer said you kind of get a feeling about them and 90% of the time

Do you mean you can detect only males, or females as well?

If people are born homosexual, then it is not their fault they they are that way. This means that it is just as wrong to discriminate against them as it is to discriminate against people of a different race than yours. If people could choose not to be gay, I suspect every gay person would become straight. Who wants to be gay and have to deal with the discrimination they get from everyone they meet?

Also, at Aca: how is being homosexual not natural? There are plenty of animals in nature that have homosexual tendencies, just google it.

[skullreken]

@ Kami

I have had gays try to pick me up before mainly because I hang out with two gays
Gays are not more likely to push themselves on you I was just making the point that it annoys me if they keep coming onto me after I have made it clear that I am not interested like wise if a woman carried on like that towards me I would get annoyed.

I can detect gay men by their body language I'm not good at picking up on gay women you would probably have better luck seeing as you are a woman and would pick up subtle differences that guys wouldn't

[wondering]

"Sorry, but I completely disagree. It may be against the teachings of the bible for people to be gay, but plenty of Christians are homosexual. I have an uncle who is Christian and gay, and he doesn't seem to have any problems. My whole family accepts him, and everything is good."

Are you sure they're Christians? What do you define as a Christian?(I know I'm being picky here, lol) Is it a person who follows the teachings of Christ? Isn't the very nature of Christianity is that it transforms people to live like Jesus Christ? Isn't it a direct contradiction of God's word?

"It may also be that people become homosexual while in the womb, because they are introduced to different hormones at different times with different concentrations. That might explain why there is a range of how homosexual people really are, with straight being at one end, homosexual at the other, and bisexual in the middle."


1) No researcher has found provable biological or genitic differences between heterosexuals and homosexuals that weren't caused by their behavior
Occasionally you may read about a scientific study that suggests that homosexuality is an inherited tendency, but such studies have usually been discounted after careful scrutiny or attempts at replication. No one has found a single heredible genetic, hormonal or physical difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals - at least none that is replicable. While the absence of such a discovery doesn't prove at inherited sexual tendencies aren't possible, it suggests that none has been found because none exists.

2) People tend to believe that their sexual desires and behaviors are learned
Two large studies asked homosexual respondents to explain the origins of their desires and behaviors - how they "got that way." The first of these studies was conducted by Kinsey in the 1940s and involved 1700 homosexuals. The second, in 1970, involved 979 homosexuals. Both were conducted prior to the period when the "gay rights" movement started to politicize the issue of homosexual origins. Both reported essentially the same findings: Homosexuals overwhelmingly believed their feelings and behavior were the result of social or environmental influences.
In a 1983 study conducted by the Family Research Instituteinvolving a random sample of 147 homosexuals, 35% said their sexual desires were hereditary. Interestingly, almost 80% of the 3,400 heterosexuals in the same study said that their preferences and behavior were learned.


I'll be honest. This isn't in my own words. (Copy and Paste, lol) But I was trying to use some ethos here.