Homosexuality

[Yokurama]

Originally Posted by wondering

"Sorry, but I completely disagree. It may be against the teachings of the bible for people to be gay, but plenty of Christians are homosexual. I have an uncle who is Christian and gay, and he doesn't seem to have any problems. My whole family accepts him, and everything is good."

how can you be gay and Christian? its against the bible and what ever you do thats against the bible makes you not Christian and being gay is one of the things that is against the bible

[Barzillal]

actually wondering is right there are alot of gay christians out there and there are even Catholic gay priests =p
homosexuality is not a supernatural possession of some demonic prescence that makes them not christian
homosexuality is a biological imbalance of sex hormones you can still be Christian even if you are gay unless the Pope or some religious sect leader excommunicate u

[Yokurama]

Originally Posted by Barzillal

actually wondering is right there are alot of gay christians out there and there are even Catholic gay priests =p
homosexuality is not a supernatural possession of some demonic prescence that makes them not christian
homosexuality is a biological imbalance of sex hormones you can still be Christian even if you are gay unless the Pope or some religious sect leader excommunicate u

you cant call yourself a Christian if your gay.... its all against the bible

[Barzillal]

it is religiously speaking not allowed but gays are not outcasted in society as well as in the church, upholding ones masculinity despite the imbalance of hormones will have and as they can and is allowed to be called christians
and they are allowed to practice the faith
they were baptized when they were but babies and we cant tell if its a gay baby during the Baptizmal rite now couldnt we? and Baptism is the initiation to the faith

[skullreken]

You cant be a Christian if your gay?
BS! the Church of England and the Anglican church in America have both ordained openly gay Bishops
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/3909559.stm
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...55C0A9659C8B63

the bible is not rock solid there were loads of gospels that the Catholic church cut out and buried
such as the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Judas which says Judas was instructed by Christ to betray him

Christianity is based off Judaism but you don't see Christians being circumcised refusing to eat pork or dairy mixed with meat, being condemned to hell for having tattooed or stoning women for losing their virginity before getting married for the first time.
It's a matter of them choosing what they wanted us to follow

as a Christian I view the bible as a guide to help me make the right choices in life. In his life time Jesus gave everyone the offer of following his message he spent his time amongst the outcasts of socioty (Matthew is the most famous example he was a tax collector for the Roman empire they were the most hated of all Roman officials) giving them hope
His core message is to think about how your action will effect others and to try to forgive and forget. If you ask me the persecution of gays by so called Christians is anything but Christian

I mean come on if you were a Catholic who married a Protestant or even stepped into a Protestant church you were told you had committed a mortal sin and would burn in hell up until the 70/80's Catholics are still told not use condoms while other Christian sects say there is no problem with using condoms

[Barzillal]

it is not rock solid indeed, the bible as far as I can recall is distorted greatly used and exploited by the early church when the Church came to power....
and I cant see the reason why gays cant be called or accepted as christians...
im not against them but I would really be ticked off when they do indecent things....

[kami]

Originally Posted by The_DOC

~Points And Rebuttles~
Partly true. But I think it's mostly without their control. I mean you can't just "decide" to be homosexual.

What's the difference between deciding to not be homosexual, to get married, etc.? If a guy sees that he likes men or vice-versa with woman, and then decides to have a sexual relationship or so with them, that's a full choice of theirs.

I think you missed my point. People can choose to act or not to act on their homosexuality, then can't choose if they are. But I once read something that compared homosexuality to handedness. Being homosexual and having a heterosexual relationship is like being left handed and writing with your right hand. It's difficult, unpleasant, not very much fun, and unnatural.

[cloudmaster88]

I think Homosexuality is wrong if people want to be gay, then just ship them to a deserted island so they can be flamingly gay as they want hate it when gay people do that fruity shit in public it's sickening, and don't get me started with gay marriage...I suggest they go do that on the deserted Island they have to get sent to....so all In all I'm totally against gay people and of the sort...freaking sickos!! LOL!!

[kami]

Cloud, would you care to expand on the subject, or is your hate senseless and irrational? I really am curious as to why someone would hate gay people that much. What is your reasoning behind it? Please respond. ^_^

[The_DOC]

~Points And Rebuttles To Kami~

I think you missed my point.

Yes, actually. Somehow, I didn't see your previous post. I apologise.

People can choose to act or not to act on their homosexuality,

So you basically agree with me.

then can't choose if they are.

I assume you meant, "They can't choose if they are. (Homosexual or not)" So yes, you agree with me again with my previous point of them not knowing, if they never tried it they wouldn't know, and such.

But I once read something that compared homosexuality to handedness. Being homosexual and having a heterosexual relationship is like being left handed and writing with your right hand. It's difficult, unpleasant, not very much fun, and unnatural.

That is true, but I never disagreed upon that point. As a matter of fact, I agree. However, as you previously said, they wouldn't openly want to announce that they're homosexual if they risk being discriminated against, just like they would want to write right handed if most of the people around him wrote right handed, and that he'd risk being different from the people.

~Points And Rebuttles To cloudmaster88~

I think Homosexuality is wrong

Reasonable. Your opinion, though it could've been made better with some explanations as to why you think they're wrong.

if people want to be gay, then just ship them to a deserted island so they can be flamingly gay as they want hate it when gay people do that fruity shit in public it's sickening, and don't get me started with gay marriage...

I also don't support gay marriage. I really don't support anything that is for gay people personally, but that's really too much. It's okay to support, not support, or just don't care, but that's a little egotystical and selfish way to look at it. Just because, I assume, you're straight and don't support gay things doesn't mean that you have a right to want to segregate them from normal society. They're not animals; they're humans, and they have as much right to society as a gay person as anyone else should.

.I suggest they go do that on the deserted Island they have to get sent to....so all In all I'm totally against gay people and of the sort...freaking sickos!! LOL!!

Actually, it would be really hard to find an island to house all th gay people in America, moreso the whole world's gay population. If you don't like what they do, then don't look.