Is this what we fight for?

[bonvnguyen]

To me, its better to live in a world where everyone can get along as well as a world without fighting and freedom would also be good too.

Although its true that the world is not always perfect and peaceful seeing as there are people who'd love to cause trouble regarding small to big issues such as harassment or destruction for example, not just in society but in parts of the world too.

True and Definitely. I believe people should reconsider how they interact in life in regards to getting around places as well as how people treat one another. That way, it does show a much strengthened personality as well as their sense of being an individual and belonging.

Same goes with me, I too would also fight for my sense of belonging as well as my individuality and for those who are closely important to me.

[wondering]

This world isn't a Utopia (or is it "an" Utopia? My english isn't all that great), and I believe that this world will never be perfect. You had quite a passionate post but people will always do stuff like that. The pain, abuse, all of that will always remain on this planet as long as there are humans on this planet. (I wonder if animals do this too.....hmm) Now you may not be able to change the world, but you might and I'm saying might be able to change your community on their views but even then, I doubt it....

[verosavana88]

Originally Posted by playa_chan

UFI now u confused me .....
but yea its worth it ...well as long as i dont fight seriously ..but i do MEAN it . it is sure to me ...
haha putting that song for thinking ...>.< thats mean ..are u comparing me to kira or something ...
i said i dont like murders. its not like i would kill someone or something just to say "WE NEED PEACE IN THIS WORLD" because that would be a part of destroying that peace... lol like kira did it although ..i do admire him ...<.< but as its just anime it has not much to do with real life ..
but i also said
why do people kill people to show people that killing people is wrong?
<.< i dont intend on killing or Fighting in that way u might understanding ...
but i can post things like that and if i only or at least reached out to 1 or 2 people who might change their opinions on this topic its fine with me . i just want to TRY to stop the shit thats going on. i never said i can stop all of it ...but at least my concience is clear....>.>

You HAVE to kill to get peace because when a person starts an argument or speaks their mind. There are and will always be people who think diferently than you do. Some may think so Highly of their mind that they will hurt you. It means to hurt or be hurt. Would you Hurt or be the one getting hurt? I believe you would prefer to hurt than to be hurt just like any other human being. Humans think of themselves before they think of others. It is an instinct. When you think of protecting your loved ones it is the same, it is an instinct you are protecting your self from feeling emotional pain. If someone is in your house pointing a gun at you mother or lover, would you let them kill them?

So if you want to make them see your point you are ganna force them. It would be the same as leaving a soulless body. He would think the same way you do but guess what It is no longer that person's will.

It is the same with killers. You think killing is wrong. so you have to kill them, or sooner or later they will hurt someone important to someone else. That person would be thinking of protecting their loved ones so they would kill that person. Dont you think so?

I guess this sounds messed up but i believe that if they killed lets say 5 people. You should do the same exact things they did to those people. You torture them the way they tortured the others. People always talk about a "golden rule: treat otheres the way you want to be treated. So are you saying those killers wanted to be killed, didnt they kill so you would kill them.

You may change the way of thinking of many people, but thats the same thing everyone else is doing. Its the same as killing a person. You take their individuality away. Like Hitler he just changed peoples minds. Was that a good thing? What would have happened if someone hadnt killed him? Could you imagine what would have happened if someone hadnt stopped him. I think killing someone who killed someone is right. They deserve to suffer what they did to the other person.

It is kind of messed up, but thats the way we, humans, interact.

[Opacic_A]

To be honest the original post reads like a MySpace bulletin.

Anyway.

Regardless of how we, a bunch of people on an anime forum, act or think there will always be Xenophobia, there will always be bigotry, ignorance etc. I think you get my meaning.

No country or person can truly say they have never discriminated against how someone looks, acts or says, there's always been a situation where you've done that which you condemn now.

It's a human condition to be afraid of what's different, and the feeling only gets stronger in cultures where racial diversity is very little, but on the opposite end it's also the same with nationsa that are very racially diverse.

Case in point, Japan is probably one of the least (racially) diverse nations I've seen, and also one of the most Xenophobic according to the United Nations, foreigners are treated worse regarding jobs, buying a home and basically anything, of course such views are very slowly being removed, and quite a few younger japanese people will act friendly towards you.

And on the other end, we have a country like Australia, my country, whilst we're all not racist, there still exists a severe phobia towards Asia and the Middle East in general, a recent survey (I know statistics are bullshit, but bare with me) revealed that even Australians who don't consider them racist still were suspicious of people who wore clothing that revealed them as Muslim.

Of course I can argue that we as free Westerners, given the right of free speech must accept that as much as we can say, we must also receive, in other words we can't whine about being offended by someone, as they are, in fact, exercising their right to free speech.

And on another subject.

War, or violence in general.

Warfare is not new to humanity, we've been fighting and killing since we all existed in tiny little social tribes, sometimes diplomacy can and will fail and force is the only way to prove the point that you see as right.

As much as I would love to see the concept of Peace and 'Love', so to speak, dominate the world, the realistic side of me slaps me across the back of the head, tells me to shut up, and look outside my window, the universe is a very cold, dark and empty place, and we humans are of no consequence when compared to it, we are a mere mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

No one will come to save us, nor do I hold much hope that we can save us from ourselves, I still hold much hope for humanity, but I remain cynical as to whether we really do have a future to look forward to when such terrible things happen day by day.

[Jinzu]

Who said WE fight? who is WE?
Why do you think killing is wrong? Why do you assume fat people are ugly? Why is the ideal for everyone to be equal? is everybody equal?
Is speaking up such a good thing? Is living such a good thing?
Who said death is better?
Why can't you be bisexual not be and hated..? Why can't you be fucking psycho and not be hated?!
Who is man, to tell me what to think, to believe, to do, to live for, to die for, what to kill for, what to say, what to keep in, what to do with myself?
No one. You're all fucking no-ones to me. But I like you no-ones. I like life. I like the smell of roses when I pass by them. I like my music when i'm lying in bed with my headphones on. I like these discussions, to see how the rest of humanity thinks of the world. I like to speak my mind.
I like the freedom, the choices, that I've always had and always will have. I like death. I like nothing.

[WarZone]

i fight for those i love i fight to protect what is important to me i fight for my protection i fight for my loved ones protection. i fight for what i believe in.

on a side note im not racist or judgemental by anymeans but i must say that i dislike most of the EMO people i met. EMO is possibly oneof the most touchy subjects i will ever talk about.


my reason stands as so.


the emo people i know all have great families and get what ever they want yet they claim they have nothing and nobody loves them. They cry and get upset that the world hates them when its them who makes it likethat by acting like the world hates them and shutting themselves away from the world.i know people who have extremly sh*ty lives no money no food barley making rent both parents dead or left them or dying and they have better additude then the emos i know who have everything they could want. If you dont want people to think your gunna kill everybody then stop acting like it. and the worst thing is that they selfishly kill themselves and make thereparents and friends and family sad and upset for the rest of there lives because they instigated there own bullying. Everybody gets picked on its life it happens unfortionatly thats the generation we live in. ill admit racism against black obese people gay people exc.. is horrible but those peoples anger r just. thats how they r thats how they were born or how they were raised. out. EMO kids were not raised like that nor were they born like that they choose to be like that they CHOOSE to act like outcasts then get mad when they r outcasted. i cant respect that by anymeans and will never respect them. i wont tease them or bully them to each there own but dont get mad cuz u want to be an outcast and then ur outcasted.


thoase r just my opinions going by what i have seen in my lifetime sofar mabye there r different people out there but i havnt met them yet.


ill say this a high percentage of my family has served in the millitary for a long time. and i have attempted to join the marines myself but was rejected due to my blood pressure and my lack of vision out of my left eye. i will fight for every person in this country with out a seconds notice but i will not fight for the people who hate there own lives and country for no reason at all.

[Opacic_A]

Originally Posted by WarZone

i fight for those i love i fight to protect what is important to me i fight for my protection i fight for my loved ones protection. i fight for what i believe in.

Yet here you are on an anime forum.

Not being mean or anything, just pointing out the irony.

Unless you're in the armed forces or something.

[WarZone]

attempted to join the marines. just because your not in the armed forces dont mean u cant fight for your loved ones. i fight everyday of my life for my beliefs and loved ones. if someone insults my frie3nds believe ium the first person to defend them. same goes for family. if i see someone picking on a smaller size person for no reason believe ill step in to defend them.i dont promote violence nor do i encourage it. but i will not hesitate to fight to defend something i love and believe in.

[Opacic_A]

Originally Posted by WarZone

attempted to join the marines. just because your not in the armed forces dont mean u cant fight for your loved ones. i fight everyday of my life for my beliefs and loved ones. if someone insults my frie3nds believe ium the first person to defend them. same goes for family. if i see someone picking on a smaller size person for no reason believe ill step in to defend them.i dont promote violence nor do i encourage it. but i will not hesitate to fight to defend something i love and believe in.

Righto then.

As long as you have reason and vindication, I respect that.

[WarZone]

remember not all fights r 100% physical. i think 85% of fights r mental. most of the time u fight with someone about it its verbal arguments debates pretty much. its only when what ur defending is insulted that it can sometimes become physical.