Prayer is Pointless

**the_dead_romantic** · 03-29-2009 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by HopelessWriter

I guess I could how he got pissed off about that but still it's annoying. Christians once they hear something that goes against their belief just enter into their own world and ignore everything. It's infuriratingly annoying and it instilled in me some negative feelings toward you average Christian.

i would have to agree with that point, they do go off in to there own world and ignore everything else, personally i think prayer is just talking to your self, and if you say that your talking to god, you have to ask, "who came up with the idea of a god in the first place?" the answer you will most likely get, i think, will be "a human" or "some guy along time ago" or something like that. so if god was thought up by a guy then by worshiping that god are you not by proxy worshiping the guy that thought it up, and would we not all like to worship ourselves rather than someone we had never met and never will meet? it just makes more sense too me.

***pipboy3000_v2*** · 07-05-2009 07:58 PM

Why doesn't God helps u?
it's simple! think deeply, U know why u living in this world, u know u got brain in ur skull that makes u thinks and decide things, a power to choice a option,a body that helps u survive ,from hand that u can grab things and feet to walk with.
do u think god should babysit u! look man, If god actually helps u,then he must help others too, then why we live for if god do most things for us.

some doesn't believe in god,they think he must appear,do something in front of them,well he already does, bringing over1000 prophets and giving his holy book kouran(Islam holy book) that from speech of god to people but that is foolish to think god must show himself, cause GOD ISN'T PERSON,THING,SHAPE,DOESN'T HAVE PERSONALITY, BUT HE IS EVERYTHING EVEN WE MAKE PART OF THE GOD,OUR WORLD,AND OTHERWORLD,NATURE,LAWS,NUMBERS,AIR EVERY ONE EVEN NOTHING IS PART OF THE GOD.

we humans are really pure evil, why all blames goes for god,may be problem is from u : think every move u make, in most things we are responsible for our doing, then try look in urself and u may got answer for it.
if don't love ur religion, so become muslim, no offense. that might help u alittle, but don't accept all their words u know, not all religions are complete, it will be complete if u research about wisdom,ur religion(that's why i say Islam is closer to god and best choice to know god),faith and ur world around u, only u can make urself better.

**Flameo** · 07-05-2009 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by pipboy3000_v2

Why doesn't God helps u?
it's simple! think deeply, U know why u living in this world, u know u got brain in ur skull that makes u thinks and decide things, a power to choice a option,a body that helps u survive ,from hand that u can grab things and feet to walk with.
do u think god should babysit u! look man, If god actually helps u,then he must help others too, then why we live for if god do most things for us.

some doesn't believe in god,they think he must appear,do something in front of them,well he already does, bringing over1000 prophets and giving his holy book kouran(Islam holy book) that from speech of god to people but that is foolish to think god must show himself, cause GOD ISN'T PERSON,THING,SHAPE,DOESN'T HAVE PERSONALITY, BUT HE IS EVERYTHING EVEN WE MAKE PART OF THE GOD,OUR WORLD,AND OTHERWORLD,NATURE,LAWS,NUMBERS,AIR EVERY ONE EVEN NOTHING IS PART OF THE GOD.

we humans are really pure evil, why all blames goes for god,may be problem is from u : think every move u make, in most things we are responsible for our doing, then try look in urself and u may got answer for it.
if don't love ur religion, so become muslim, no offense. that might help u alittle, but don't accept all their words u know, not all religions are complete, it will be complete if u research about wisdom,ur religion(that's why i say Islam is closer to god and best choice to know god),faith and ur world around u, only u can make urself better.

I don't mind when people believe in a God, I myself find going to the Heavens and looking down on earth a much more pleasing death than just dying and no one apart from your friends and family knowing you died.
That's it, you're gone, you're a dead body.

Pretty depressing I think anyone would agree.

But please, don't shove your religious "facts" into other people's mouths and actually use your head for once.
And don't go around calling humans evil we make mistakes sure, but it makes you look silly and also makes you look like the type of person who'd sacrafice(suicide) in the name of God.

Simply put, it makes you look insane.

EDIT:
"if don't love ur religion, so become muslim, no offense. that might help u alittle, but don't accept all their words u know, not all religions are complete"

Sorry, I never read this part before and just thought I should reply and tell you:
Stop being so full of yourself.
You just said yourself not all religions are complete, then why do you believe it?
Why do you only accept the sections you want to accept?

Sure, what I'm saying right now might seem a tad contradictory considering I said I don't mind when people believe in a God. But when they're like you... -.-'
It's ignorant to only believe the parts you want, then throw everything else away.

**Molomono** · 07-05-2009 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by pipboy3000_v2

Why doesn't God helps u?
it's simple! think deeply, U know why u living in this world, u know u got brain in ur skull that makes u thinks and decide things, a power to choice a option,a body that helps u survive ,from hand that u can grab things and feet to walk with.
do u think god should babysit u! look man, If god actually helps u,then he must help others too, then why we live for if god do most things for us.

some doesn't believe in god,they think he must appear,do something in front of them,well he already does, bringing over1000 prophets and giving his holy book kouran(Islam holy book) that from speech of god to people but that is foolish to think god must show himself, cause GOD ISN'T PERSON,THING,SHAPE,DOESN'T HAVE PERSONALITY, BUT HE IS EVERYTHING EVEN WE MAKE PART OF THE GOD,OUR WORLD,AND OTHERWORLD,NATURE,LAWS,NUMBERS,AIR EVERY ONE EVEN NOTHING IS PART OF THE GOD.

we humans are really pure evil, why all blames goes for god,may be problem is from u : think every move u make, in most things we are responsible for our doing, then try look in urself and u may got answer for it.
if don't love ur religion, so become muslim, no offense. that might help u alittle, but don't accept all their words u know, not all religions are complete, it will be complete if u research about wisdom,ur religion(that's why i say Islam is closer to god and best choice to know god),faith and ur world around u, only u can make urself better.

But let me ask you something, If god isn't a creature a being or in any way related to humanity besides what humanity has made to relate to god.
Is god even there?

Well i can't tell you that just yet because we need to look at the word god and its uses.

How does water move?
Everone knows about tides, gravity, wind and so forth. Well yes WE KNOW how water moves,

But what about the romans and greeks, they didn't. So they made a god.

What is fire?
Its a fuel, at a high temperature, with oxygen.

But what about the romans and greeks, they didn't know. So they made a god.

What about tree's how do they grow, actually forget that HOW DID WE COME TO EXISTANCE?

Well we still dont know how we came into existance, and guess what we believe in god for?
Yes under many other things, his main source of creation is "god gives us life"

To understand the present we must look at the past, and until we understand everything we will always have a god to fill our blank spots.

God is actually just a word, the word is used for explaining what we dont know. Thats it, i "found god" as many christans would say.

only difference is i did it threw logic and not make believe.

now i'm not saying religion is bad, hell its good, it gives people hope it gives them fulfillment.

But there are people like me and Flameo, we dont need a god because we can live off of what we know, "what is life?" Who cares, its there i live, might as well try to have fun, because as we all know life comes to an end.

No use worrying about that either, i'll deal with my problems when i come across them. And if God or Allah or whoever els exists, i bet it would agree.

They so called gave us life, so why not use what was given to us. I wouldn't want to waste a gift from god.

I'm not Christian, i'm not atheist, i'm not Muslim, I am what I chose to be and that will never change.

And admin, good job on this little guy

I highly approve of that emoticon

***pipboy3000_v2*** · 07-05-2009 09:40 PM

Simply put, it makes you look insane

using bad words and giving name to them doesn't make talk become right,it only release ur anger and hate, and closing ur mind!

Sorry, I never read this part before and just thought I should reply and tell you:
Stop being so full of yourself.
You just said yourself not all religions are complete, then why do you believe it?
Why do you only accept the sections you want to accept?

even if u read it, u didn't read all of my words,we must have base religion to start searching about god,some where to begin with!,they are like basics in wisdom.

And don't go around calling humans evil we make mistakes sure, but it makes you look silly and also makes you look like the type of person who'd sacrafice(suicide) in the name of God

what u think I'm terrorist or something?, my friend cool down ur anger.

Well i can't tell you that just yet because we need to look at the word god and its uses.

that is why humans are evil creatures,using god for their purpose and giving no respect to him,DID U READ ALL OF MY WORD! how does the water moves and gravity and wind all THEM ARE PART OF THE GOD.

**flickenmaste** · 07-05-2009 10:07 PM

prayer doesnt work like you want it to, you cant pray for money or world peace. prayer is a time for meditation and to spend time with god(if you believe in him)

god wont answer every prayer, and he wont answer your prayers in the fashion you want it to. He will cause something to happen where you earn it, he just doesnt magically give you what you want

**RighteousRob** · 07-06-2009 12:05 AM

Prayer is just meant as an idea, something to give you hope.. nothing more

**Flameo** · 07-06-2009 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by pipboy3000_v2

using bad words and giving name to them doesn't make talk become right,it only release ur anger and hate, and closing ur mind!

even if u read it, u didn't read all of my words,we must have base religion to start searching about god,some where to begin with!,they are like basics in wisdom.

what u think I'm terrorist or something?, my friend cool down ur anger.

that is why humans are evil creatures,using god for their purpose and giving no respect to him,DID U READ ALL OF MY WORD! how does the water moves and gravity and wind all THEM ARE PART OF THE GOD.

I called you insane and I said you sound like a crazy person who would suicide in the name of his God because the way you type.

About the base thing, I don't care. You never replied why you stated that you shouldn't believe everything. Because to me that sounds like you're saying you only take pieces you like, then throw away the others you do not like.

Whatever, I can't be bothered trying to make you realize how stupid you sound, with you it'd probably be impossible.