Nice guys finish last

[Draconda]

Why would you like being treated like trash ? I can't understand why would anyone like someone who would treat them like garbage. It's just not normal. The world is a big ocean and heaven is blue. You got a ask yourself what's real.

[RebbieChan]

It does seem like jerks get more dates. That's honestly pretty much true. I don't understand why. BUT Nice guys are the ones that end up with relationships, and marriages. Which, is what people are looking for. So maybe nice guys finish last, but they end up with more in the end. :)

As for my own experience, it seems nice girls finish last too >_>

[wilsososo]

Yeah true, nice guys do finish last... maybe its because they're shy or something? or maybe they havn't had that many relationships = less cocky?.. i dunno

As for my own experience, it seems nice girls finish last too >_>

Yeah so true, in my experience i like girls with a bit of attitude cause it flames up the relationship,makes it interesting, makes the chase better too

[icedeath]

i think we must be our self and accept the other one as he/she is
don't change and don't force others to change
cause they love you the way you are
whenever you tend to change yourself in order to receive more attention you'll get less

[RebbieChan]

@Icedeath Nicely said! ^^

[cly299]

omg! you watch them too?! i really love their videos and songs, lol. well... honestly... from my experiences and point of view... (its gona be lame, lol) but still... out of honesty... i can't say that i've experienced anything cause i didn't ever date anyone before, but here's the other side of it. i think that colder people are more attracted to. i feel like someone wants to say i'm outta my mind *laughs* but... really. all my guys friend who acts coldly to others (even girls)... they really aren't that cold. they they're funny, outgoing, optimistic, and etc. but when they're around people they don't talk to so much... they act like jerks teasing people, picking on them and so on. this also goes vice versa with those nice people i know. the nice people i know act like jerks and haters in the inside. which is odd and disgusting. so i do believe that people who acts colder from the outside are nicer inside. and the people who acts nice from the outside, and punks in the inside.

[satousan]

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[alex1_phang3]

Nice people always get taken advantage of, they'll never finish last. True story.

[Ame]

I think I wrote a reply to this thread before, and due to the automatic log out, I was kicked off before I could even make my reply. I think my post was kind of long, and it sad some very important things, but I don't remember any of what I had originally intended to put. :D

First of all, the saying nice guys finish last is both true and untrue, naturally.

I'll start by bringing up the previous points :

Can't say that I have really known too many people that go for the assholes.

I agree. Most girls are mislead by thinking these guys are nice when in fact, they're completely different. Not everything is a manga, where the delinquent type ends up to be a bit of a tsundere and everything works out. It's entirely the opposite in fact. =/

As far as the saying that nice ones finish last... Define nice. Because yes the overly nice will finish last. No one wants a push over, someone who is afraid to speak their mind, always pleases you out of the fear of you leaving, can't make decisions for fear of you not liking them, etc. A relationship is a partnership that you need mutual respect. You can't get that if someone is basically your dog. But keeping balance in mind, I think most people really do want a nice and respectful partner.

Most of the so-called nice guys I've met let people walk all over them. What's that about? Just because you're nice, you can still stick up for yourself. Don't be afraid to tell people NO. :)

As far as those who do go for the assholes, I think it is more of a stereotype and persona that can seem appealing to want or to be... also perhaps a wall or barrier for commitment fears and fears of relationships getting serious. I also think it's something that dissipates for most as they get older, as you mature and realize what you really want out of life and need out of a relationships... Get past the many hang ups of youth.

This is just backing up that the girls who KNOWINGLY go after the "dick-type", aren't all that together. They may be facing problems of their own. Inadequacy, abusive relationships in the past, cheating, self-image, and trust issues. In my opinion, the focal point of this situation is ... why would nice guys waste their time with a girl like this? ....That's why they're finishing last. Waiting around for girls that aren't ready, that aren't grown up, and that are a waste of time. If nice guys actually went for the girls who've got their act together... the outcome would be different. So, are we really looking at this the right way? :P

In my opinion I think it all depends on age, when you're young you tend to go for the ones that are "bad" for you. As you get older you realize what it is you are looking for in a mate. But then again I could be wrong

Also very true. Mature women aren't looking for a flaky relationship. They want stability, romance, honesty, commitment, and a future. They want a good friendship. You cannot have these aspects of your relationship with guys that are immature and simply just assholes.

In my experience with men, I can't say that I've been the best in my choices. I've picked guys that I've thought were nice, but were complete and utter nightmares. I've also broken some hearts myself (because I was once a very immature young woman) but... fortunately I have a nice guy of my own. :)

So.. in some cases, they may finish last... but they finish the strongest and win much more than anyone else does. :)

[MmeButterfly]

That's a nice thread (:

About nice guys: I agree with crwallenberg. What does "nice" mean? If nice means incapable to say no, being treated like dogs, not having a dignity just for the sake of keeping the relationship going, well I think this type of person is particularly non-attractive. At least I may be attracted at first, but when I understand that he is that type of person, I go straight and tell to him that things don't work between us. (and then I see they can also be quite the enraged type, but that's another story). When people act like this, they are probably lacking self-esteem or something. I like relationships when I and the guy are at the same level, and I think this is the only way to build serious and constructive relationships, that make both people grow up.

About bad guys: they are usually distant and this makes me feel they are stronger (even if, maybe, they are not). I've been attracted by bad guys, usually in a stronger way. Maybe it's the feeling that I have to fight to conquer them, maybe they give me more a feeling of independence...don't really know. But I never built anything serious with them.