Proof of God

[ljetibo]

Give me 100% reliable proof of this God you believe in.

you're kidding right?
the best proof one can give you of God actually existing is at best an a priori argument based on their personal belief and upbringing.
The existance of God is almost by definiton unprovable by any logical identity we as humans are able to think of. That's why the word faith exists.

I disagree with you author. The god issue needs to be discussed. Because this issue has lot to do with those serious issues you mention e.g. global warming, nuclear power, industrial demolition of nature, and so on.

I disagree, belief in God has almost no impact on global warming, nuclear power industrial demolition etc... Religious fanaticism has. Any phylosophy, should we call beleif in God a phylosophy, when turned to ideology inevitably leads to confrontations inside society.
Be the fact that all religions teach humility, caring for others and the nature itself we all know from past experiences (or even history as a school subject) that even the most religous (of any faith) destroyed nature and other lives on the path to their own goal.

And I rarely see anyone religious complaining that global warming is a myth, however I often see "hard-core" cristians ( forgot how they are named, something like creationist) trying to dispute the fact of evolution, existance of other "homo" genus creatures (like previous human types) or (this is the best) the fact that Earth is older then 5000 years(or something like that). Why? Because they turned their religion into ideology that then prevents them from even trying to understand why is something ALMOST even above just theory.

[Chedipe]

ehhh I can say that God does exist..and l am ready to give my reasons why l think so.
last year l remember l have watched on class of sociology a documentary movie about religion and so on which name l will give when l find out how was it called. it was saying that Islam and Christianity are almost the same faith just there are slightly difference that l cannot remember.
anyway prove that God exist is in Kur'an ,sacred book . there you have proves that God exists. everything that our dear scientists are discovering is written in Kur'an long long long time ago. l don't expect anyone to believe in this or anything.
l mean its not point to believe in that. no one will make you to believe in that. the point is that you should maybe accept existence of a God.
. of course you will always find arguments for against it, but why don't you try to think a bit different, in a way where your emotions are not involved and your strange perspective.
God is something that can help you out , that can make you strong when you need it the most ( but in positive manner)..
before this was very stupid to me, and l would always claim different, cuz l didnt like what others are saying. and if l dont like it ,then it has to be like that??
its all ok what you are saying..but come on , give us something more.
l will find something more reliable for you guys to see.. l dont wanna you to change your mind, l wanna you to understand. :D

[Cannelle]

you're kidding right?

Yeah. x] Just seeing if there was any crazy enough religious people around.

Maybe this thread should be closed...

[Northernian]

I disagree, belief in God has almost no impact on global warming, nuclear power industrial demolition etc... Religious fanaticism has. Any phylosophy, should we call beleif in God a phylosophy, when turned to ideology inevitably leads to confrontations inside society.
Be the fact that all religions teach humility, caring for others and the nature itself we all know from past experiences (or even history as a school subject) that even the most religous (of any faith) destroyed nature and other lives on the path to their own goal.

And I rarely see anyone religious complaining that global warming is a myth, however I often see "hard-core" cristians ( forgot how they are named, something like creationist) trying to dispute the fact of evolution, existance of other "homo" genus creatures (like previous human types) or (this is the best) the fact that Earth is older then 5000 years(or something like that). Why? Because they turned their religion into ideology that then prevents them from even trying to understand why is something ALMOST even above just theory.

Haven't you read my whole inquiry? You have almost totally missed my point >.> *sigh*

Belief in 'abrahamic' god has lot to do with global warming. Instead of seeing my rationale, you projected onto my first sentence, and missed the whole point.

I presented 'x+y=z' and you focused on 'x' and conveyed that to 'p'. Potential slippery slope, [ditto!!].

You should engage each of my sentences if you want to know why those 'serious' issues has lot to do with the belief in abrahamic God.

P.S. The word God has its origins in abrahamic religions - and the way its meaning is internalised. In dharmic philosophies (Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism), they don't use the word God in a way that arises meaning of one theocratic ruler.

[author]

P.S. The word God has its origins in abrahamic religions - and the way its meaning is internalised. In dharmic philosophies (Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism), they don't use the word God in a way that arises meaning of one theocratic ruler.

I know ALL religions in conception meant only one God. some demonstrate it straight while others expressed it indirectly. even now we're looking for a comprehensive explanation to have explain for anything: man, a creature in search of meaning.

Yeah. x] Just seeing if there was any crazy enough religious people around.

Maybe this thread should be closed...

so that was your intention?! you want to get yourself banned? :\ ...you know ... for inflammatory.

yep, closed. it's a boooring topic ever. we humans are too ignorant to speak of such unthinkable matter.
God, hey?
to explain God is to mean that you know everything and can do anything!
sorry if I gave something about God at first. I don't want to remove what I've said in previous posts either, and it doesn't "explain" God, it's only for giving a least shallow picture of God.
we have equivalent of God to speak of instead: Truth and Just.

besides,
what this about "religious people are to be blamed" stuff? surely there are secular theories and convictions as pathetic as past religious scriptures and theological essays.
Notherien what it has to do with religion nowadays? we have something called Economy and just name a few Politicians who are religious in advanced world only.
when Humans gonna take responsibilities of their messed-up tasks themselves? I'm pretty humble as human being that I'm not here to take utmost joy of life alone but to serve mankind as it's in center of my own general desires.

[Cannelle]

so that was your intention?! you want to get yourself banned? :\ ...you know ... for inflammatory.

Not even close. I was just curious too see if anyone said that they had reliable proof of God.

My intention was to see the light. To have someone truly explain what God meant to them... and what it could mean to me. I don't want to spend an eternity in hell because I'm ignorant.

[ashanime91]

you should have made this tread about gays and religion... now that would have sparked fire for sure..

[xthedestroyer]

I'm not really a believer, but I had to reply just to say that it is 100% impossible to prove or disprove the existence of a God. The arguments to either prove or disprove are and always will be of a theoretical nature and therefore can never ever be 100% either way. Besides, God and or any other religion is an act of faith, therefore proof is absolutely unecessitated in the heart of a true believer.

[alex1_phang3]

Okay, lets just say them holy books are supposed to be left by your "gods".

Then it is my personal belief that they are meant as a reference/guide book for your journeys in your lifetime.

It is how you interpret it that matters, and some choose only parts of it to belief. Thus, resulting in all these version of gods people belief in.


God or not, your fate is (almost always) in your own hands.

[Ame]

you're kidding right?
the best proof one can give you of God actually existing is at best an a priori argument based on their personal belief and upbringing.
The existance of God is almost by definiton unprovable by any logical identity we as humans are able to think of. That's why the word faith exists.

I disagree, belief in God has almost no impact on global warming, nuclear power industrial demolition etc... Religious fanaticism has. Any phylosophy, should we call beleif in God a phylosophy, when turned to ideology inevitably leads to confrontations inside society.
Be the fact that all religions teach humility, caring for others and the nature itself we all know from past experiences (or even history as a school subject) that even the most religous (of any faith) destroyed nature and other lives on the path to their own goal.

And I rarely see anyone religious complaining that global warming is a myth, however I often see "hard-core" cristians ( forgot how they are named, something like creationist) trying to dispute the fact of evolution, existance of other "homo" genus creatures (like previous human types) or (this is the best) the fact that Earth is older then 5000 years(or something like that). Why? Because they turned their religion into ideology that then prevents them from even trying to understand why is something ALMOST even above just theory.

Now, this is the best answer I've seen in this thread, lol. All according to my opinion, of course. :P

In all actuality, you cannot prove that God exists, or that he doesn't exist. There is no one definition of 'God' because there are so many different beliefs on what God is. A being, pure energy, love itself, etc.

Now, I call myself a Christian, because I believe in Jesus's teachings... acts of love, the greater good, etc. I wouldn't call myself a die-hard because I'm a firm supporter of Science and Spirituality supporting each other, and I support 'anti-Religious' things, such as 'homosexuals' and their rights to marriage and freedom. Really, I don't even LABEL 'homosexuals' or 'gays'. I see them as my friends and as people in general. I could care less what people do in their own bedroom! What happens in mine, is the only business I'm interested in.

However, I choose to believe in Jesus and his messages and intentions. It honestly doesn't matter if he's made up or not, I believe in what he stands for, and even if the truth was revealed to me, I'd still believe in it all. Because... I love good, peaceful things. And that's how it is, lol. There's parts of the Bible and all Holy Books that I think are beautiful and lovely, and there's parts that I cannot agree with or believe in. It's my choice. Some people call me a bad Christian, but I couldn't care less. I show up to Church because I like the positive atmosphere, and I like hearing good things. There's some things in the Church I can't stomach, but I choose not to listen. It's as simple as that. :)